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Understand that you don't use this tactic in neutral.  Dash-through growler is used when the opponent has blocked something that leaves you + like 5BB so that normal mashing could get them punished on start-up.

Not too many people use it because it is a slight gimmick because it can catch anyone off guard the first and after that they will respect it less. 

THAT said.

Dash-through Growler > RC > Dash-through Growler mix-ups works 90% of the time all the time.

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1 hour ago, Angry Guy of DE said:

Understand that you don't use this tactic in neutral.  Dash-through growler is used when the opponent has blocked something that leaves you + like 5BB so that normal mashing could get them punished on start-up.
 

I think you're understating the case - it's not that you "don't" use this in neutral, you CAN'T use it in neutral because you need to be pretty close to your opponent to dash through them, and if you're at that range, it's not neutral anymore.  At best, it's a scramble.

And anyway, using it as a mixup on someone in blockstun doesn't actually make it any less faster than any other tactic that gets used in pressure (like Rachel or Izayoi instant overheads.)

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Can any give me some advice on how to pull off a 5C string valiant charger combo? I keep getting 6C and it screws everything up.

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Azrael can't just rely on cross up anything all the time. good players will put their DP input on the other side, block it or mash their fastest button to interrupt the mix up.

Not gonna lie I do get a very rewarding situation in which i managed to cross up (5A, 5B) mid screen TWO TIMES. I feel players are just allowing for the scary cross up to happen then hopefully get out some way instead of trying to prevent it in "fast paced" offensive situations for azrael. 

Also cross up mix ups with Forward Dash can go from safe to unsafe. Like the first post said sure you can get +1 or 2 from a blocked 5BB but will that guarantee the cross up dash after is going to work? Could still lose to a Fast 5A or 2A. Like Jins. 

But when you do it after a knockdown and time it right...then you are safe each time but it has to be timed right "especially" when they Emergency tech. It has to be an emergency tech and if not then your Cross up Dash Mix up is never guaranteed to work. (Obviously unless DP is inputted on the other side as a counter)

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