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[CT-CS2] Carl vs. Jin

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I've found your problem.

Though to really understand this move pretty much anytime jin presses 6d without large frame advantage (im talking approx 20f~ possibly more) you could have punished him for it. Whether or not you can react to it is up to you.

Theres nothing wrong with just blocking it, just respect whatever he does after it (unless its another 6d then hit him).

Sure?

Dude like i said before if i throw some 5/2A or 5B it will hit.. but 6D also will hit me, so i be frozen and we are going to start again the corner love.

Online y play with people with D3 and D4 so i think that i dont have too much Delay.

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It depends on what move he does before it. If you IB the move before 6D then if you can react soon enough have a chance to knock him out of it. It has 35 frames of startup. If you can't react to it all times (which no one can) then you'll need to sit back and block. A gap will eventually come.

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I've had trouble with this too.

I have (2) solutions.

Safe = Super Jump, InstantBarrer the ice, than jump again or airdash

Risky = IB Jin's 6C and get a CH with Cantata.

There is a 3rd option, if you don´t want to ´´repect`` the gayness spam xD.

If you see that he is going to throw a 6D, the do 6B. Both of you will get counter, but he will be knocked down. Also you can recover a little bit early from that counter status and try to connect something.

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What are the best options against that double dp from Jin? I dont really have problems baiting Dp moves, but against Jin the second hit always took me for surprise. It hard to counter that move.

Best normals against Jin?

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Its pretty hard to punish his DP if you block the second hit. Often times it will push you out too far to punish. If you block the second hit:

- If nirvana is close you can go into Rhapsody of Memories

- If you're close enough you can go for 3C

- I think you can do gear super as well

Before 2nd hit comes out:

- You can vivace B and get a free 3C into 6.5k combo

- Gear super

NEVER BARRIER UNLESS ITS GONNA BREAK YOUR LAST PRIMER.

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Its pretty hard to punish his DP if you block the second hit. Often times it will push you out too far to punish. If you block the second hit:

- If nirvana is close you can go into Rhapsody of Memories

- If you're close enough you can go for 3C

- I think you can do gear super as well

Before 2nd hit comes out:

- You can vivace B and get a free 3C into 6.5k combo

- Gear super

NEVER BARRIER UNLESS ITS GONNA BREAK YOUR LAST PRIMER.

Well a lot of times i can bait well the first hit, but when it come the 2nd one is the one that give me troubles. Im so sick of that shit, just so dumb.

As you said, sometime i do Rhapsody of Memori if Nirvana is close but still i dont think that this is the best option U_U.

Are you sure that vivance B work well before the 2ndo hit come out? im sure that DP move can own you if you do that. Even jap player have troubles in that situation, at least that it look from the vid that i saw >_>.

Thank you Zoongstin = ).

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This seem to be working.. If you are almost near with Jin, after the 2nd hit you can easyly connect 6B with CH status giving you a free combo.

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Yeah vivace B has been doing wonders for me. The thing is most of the time you'll safely roll to the other side of Jin. 90% of the time it works. The other 10% is when Jin hits me with the 2nd part while I'm inputting the motion for vivace B.

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Mmm.. i tried what you said in trainning mode. But it look that if Jin throw the 2nd dp hit the faster that he can, it will beat vivance B

Dude try 6B after you block the 2nd hit, seem to work fine.

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I think you made a grammar mistake in the second part of your first sentence. What do you mean "faster that he can?"

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ups, sorry.

I mean if jin in the minus time possible throw the 2nd dp move..

A little bit hard to explain xD.

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I think you made a grammar mistake in the second part of your first sentence. What do you mean "faster that he can?"

I think he means if Jin releases his DP before you can actually use Vivace.

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Any tips against Jin in Cs2?.. i just can´t get close to him, the motherfucker just keep running away. Also Carl loose air to air.

Any tips?

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