qwerty Report post Posted October 12, 2008 i find iad back -> j.H to be pretty useful; lands me lots of ch's. might be pretty risky to throw out all the time though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerwatt Report post Posted October 13, 2008 block or attack attacking back will depend on what he's doing, throw is usually a good bet though. you can avoid the whole mixup all together by hitting him out of the dandy step. or are you using 'dandy mixup' to mean something else? No, you pretty much got what I was trying to get across, thanks a lot. It's just that every time he dandies and I block I guess wrong and get hit with a high when I was blocking low and vice-versa; it's so annoying, especially in the corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zewo Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Have you tried coining him when he dandies? The arc of the coin lasts long enough to hit him (or at least trade) each time I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4r5 Report post Posted October 14, 2008 Coin works well against KDandy, as long as they don't CrosswiseHeel. If Slayer is around his 5K range, a PDandy will just swing underneath the Coin's arc. 2K, 2S, 2D, and 2HS(don't miss, lol) are good for hitting Slayer out of Dandy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwerty Report post Posted October 14, 2008 i like the idea of beating dandy with 2D for free otg coin, high level 3, mist, etc. gonna have to try that. how strict is the timing and could it still hit him if he frc's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qwerty Report post Posted October 16, 2008 tested out ways to counter dandy. unless noted otherwise, this was all done at round start distance. - 2H beats S dandy, lands ch and puts slayer in throw range. the timing for this is very lenient; you can even hit him with it after he gets behind you and still land the ch. - 5K also beats S dandy, though the timing is more strict than 2H and doesn't stagger on ch. still may want to use this if you suspect he might frc, as this is easily hitconfirmable. - 2D beats P dandy feint, lands ch for free otg coin, mist, etc. the timing for this is somewhat strict. - 2H clashes with P or S dandy pilebunker and puts you at a large advantage, as you can land a coin or low level 2 during his recovery. the timing for this is very lenient. - 6P clashes with the second hit of K dandy crosswise, puts you at a large advantage. good for coin or high level 2 (as a side note for you combo video makers, after it clashes, MFPLV2 -> SH -> KJ FRC-> H -> DB). will edit this post and add more to it later when i have more time to have fun with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dejeuner Report post Posted October 16, 2008 - 5K also beats S dandy, though the timing is more strict than 2H and doesn't stagger on ch. still may want to use this if you suspect he might frc, as this is easily hitconfirmable. FYI, S dandy doesn't have an FRC point so you don't have to worry about that at least (K and P dandy do though, of course) - 2H clashes with P or S dandy pilebunker and puts you at a large advantage, as you can land a coin or low level 2 during his recovery - 6P clashes with the second hit of K dandy crosswise, puts you at a large advantage If two moves clash then BOTH players can instantly cancel into another move (not just whichever one's playing Johnny ) So if you 2H his pilebunker, or 6P his crosswise heel, depending on your next move you might just be asking for a CH 2H or jH (those are pretty slow so maybe more realistically, CH 2D or FLJ) to the face Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DandyStepper Report post Posted October 16, 2008 If two moves clash then BOTH players can instantly cancel into another move (not just whichever one's playing Johnny ) So if you 2H his pilebunker, or 6P his crosswise heel, depending on your next move you might just be asking for a CH 2H or jH (those are pretty slow so maybe more realistically, CH 2D or FLJ) to the face i kinda disagree. If you do an attack knowing that a clash is gunna happen and your opponent doesnt...(lol i didnt know Johnny's 6p would clash with crosswise...THANKS FOR THE INFO) then you have advantage otherwise its anyones fair gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4r5 Report post Posted October 16, 2008 Under the assumption that both players are knowledgeable, when a clash happens, everything goes back to neutral. Though in this situation, Johnny is slightly ahead, since Slayer ends up in the air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frcflyingjohnny Report post Posted March 19, 2010 Videos 178 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r_f_KwB4II#t=8m09s 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZK3uC30tDI#t=6m42s 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCRFAJAXZxc#t=2m20s 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCRFAJAXZxc#t=6m19ssame 2 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMBHH1t-TcM#t=1m39s 6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMBHH1t-TcM#t=5m23s 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vdV2cYE-4#t=2m23s 8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6vdV2cYE-4#t=6m00s 9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgjQJKYUFSw#t=4m13s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frcflyingjohnny Report post Posted March 21, 2010 Videos 177 If I give ratings then the scale is out of (1-10) COINS . 10 coins = best. 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boS7Z7_oUY#t=1m28s 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3boS7Z7_oUY#t=6m18s 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=homnOmwwqXE#t=5m02s (3 coins) 4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZggiOzh1T4#t=1m28s (5 coins, this is a good example as to why we should always be throwing coins to continue pressure.) 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFj5NEtK68#t=3m51s (4 coins) 6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZagGSLMaZE#t=3m15s (3 coins) 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW1dMhJiyAs#t=2m30s (4 coins) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frcflyingjohnny Report post Posted March 26, 2010 bigOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1. www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5fQsnibr7Q#t=4m43s (5-8 coins) 2. www.youtube.com/watch?v=srGtHBtBIDk (5-7 coins) 3. www.youtube.com/watch?v=MraP7vDiA9E ( 2 coins) 4. www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAa3Vq-YL0w#t=2m06s (6 coins) (1 onehit, very patient match) 5. www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYHD8DEUPEk#t=05m05s (6-7) 7. www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaGM5FM3EB0 (Spike vs ???) (9 coins) 8. www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIj5vsQTzc (Spike vs. ???) :scared: 9. www.youtube.com/watch?v=76saj9GIZmU (8+ coins) a-cho 6. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N_7MWhmGmw (DC vs. ???) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites