Axl v. Eddie

[Shoto]

A few minor things I would like to see added: - Axls DAA will hit Eddie even during a miniedie rush (no matter if you like it or not it's an especially good tool in this matchup ) - 5K very reliably gets limp hits against Eddies 2S and allows even to combo into 2H - If you spam 5P Eddie will be hit before a drill gets active The rest is really good^^

[Digital Watches]

A few minor things I would like to see added:

- Axls DAA will hit Eddie even during a miniedie rush (no matter if you like it or not it's an especially good tool in this matchup )

- 5K very reliably gets limp hits against Eddies 2S and allows even to combo into 2H

- If you spam 5P Eddie will be hit before a drill gets active

The rest is really good^^

Could you edit the DAA thing in? I don't know what to write about it, since I hate that move and never use it.

[BlackRose]

Against Eddie I'm wondering what's a good Anti-air. The Eddie flies up and looks delicious, so I throw out a 2s into 6k and I almost always get suckered. He dives in the ground and pops up to hit the last frames of the move. Why does this happen and what's a good way to utilize Axl's AA in this situation. (usually Midscreen for clarification)

[Teyah]

I have this sneaking suspicion that you're talking about CPU Eddie, as he does that all the time whenever you get a bit too close to him. If this is the case, don't worry about it since the CPU reads inputs and knows the exact frames of when to activate the Shadow Gallery (the dive move) to beat your AA. Although you can run or jump up to him and block to get the CPU to do it early, then punish. Against humans, you can just block the Shadow Gallery and then punish him with anything, unless he FRCs. But it is very tough for a human Eddie to consistently perfectly guess when to use the move to beat your AA, so it's actually a very risky move for Eddie to try, and your AA attempts and blocking should win out easily if you vary your timing a bit.

[BlackRose]

I have this sneaking suspicion that you're talking about CPU Eddie, as he does that all the time whenever you get a bit too close to him. If this is the case, don't worry about it since the CPU reads inputs and knows the exact frames of when to activate the Shadow Gallery (the dive move) to beat your AA. Although you can run or jump up to him and block to get the CPU to do it early, then punish.

Against humans, you can just block the Shadow Gallery and then punish him with anything, unless he FRCs. But it is very tough for a human Eddie to consistently perfectly guess when to use the move to beat your AA, so it's actually a very risky move for Eddie to try, and your AA attempts and blocking should win out easily if you vary your timing a bit.

Actually Teyah, it's an Eddie player that knows my style well and he baits my AA with this move, he likes a risk I guess. However, the AI Eddie is a bastard like stated. How do I block if I am still in the frames of the move. Usually however, he beats out my 6K, which is slow and he knows usually when I'm going to through it out. I know I can stop being baited but I was wondering what's a better way to give him a supprise? I'm tired of his tech trap.

Also, how do I get out of Eddie's assisted litle eddie High -Low FB Drill x2 combo? It sucks hard! I tried the DAA, but it didn't work. Do I basically need to jump and FD or slashback, something like that. I can't give the specifics of this combo, its very common in videos, I saw it in your matches against DW even.

[Teyah]

Actually Teyah, it's an Eddie player that knows my style well and he baits my AA with this move, he likes a risk I guess. However, the AI Eddie is a bastard like stated. How do I block if I am still in the frames of the move. Usually however, he beats out my 6K, which is slow and he knows usually when I'm going to through it out. I know I can stop being baited but I was wondering what's a better way to give him a supprise? I'm tired of his tech trap.

That's surprising, since Shadow Gallery is so laggy if missed that you can punish with basically any combo you can think of. Also, by blocking I mean.. just not throwing out any attacks and blocking. Also, 2S is a much better AA against Eddie than 6K as it is much faster and you can easily confirm a hit into a big damage combo. So yeah, if you find yourself being baited a lot, just stop trying to AA (and also stop using 6K as a reactionary AA) and just block and punish with a 50% damage combo.

Also, how do I get out of Eddie's assisted litle eddie High -Low FB Drill x2 combo? It sucks hard! I tried the DAA, but it didn't work. Do I basically need to jump and FD or slashback, something like that. I can't give the specifics of this combo, its very common in videos, I saw it in your matches against DW even.

If you're talking about the FB Drill + shadow spit projectile, it's unblockable so..

But if you sense that the two moves aren't coming together at the same time, you can try to block it properly (the spit hits high, the drill hits low for the first two hits). If you also think that the Eddie threw the moves a bit late, you can try to FD jump out of the unblockable (2147+FD).

[Digital Watches]

That's surprising, since Shadow Gallery is so laggy if missed that you can punish with basically any combo you can think of. Also, by blocking I mean.. just not throwing out any attacks and blocking. Also, 2S is a much better AA against Eddie than 6K as it is much faster and you can easily confirm a hit into a big damage combo. So yeah, if you find yourself being baited a lot, just stop trying to AA (and also stop using 6K as a reactionary AA) and just block and punish with a 50% damage combo.

Agreed, except that "Don't use 6K as a reactionary AA" is only true against a few specific characters. Eddie is one of them. Also, I'd add "much" in there, since it's sometimes your best option regardless.