LunaKage Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Even Axis thinks Noel is low tier. :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
excelence Report post Posted January 13, 2012 http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-trg16vee8jbrdbdnejeda4ge56egdjej6vg1dhe556iideg38jf5bvhcbsg4a4hoewd0brf83jcgf3-bkf-nada%20fucker =3 Rocket science yeah ... i think i can trust this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 The new tier list is more manly Jin doesn't count Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted January 13, 2012 http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-tri0729vdudxbgntcvj047a5igcxdblo4iog9sf9bcfb9ptmmc7ohvoe60cl8alrammh8grrmbcgf3-bkf-namAcular%20Chaotic My tier list if I made the game. :3 lulz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 lol http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-trtlmbk8gptlm9tmmatnm6ttm8trmatpm75l2rtjmbf72rtqm7tpmctqm7ttm8p0jztpmctrm9tmm7-bk3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted January 13, 2012 ... Chests chart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotokot Report post Posted January 13, 2012 lol http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-trtlmbk8gptlm9tmmatnm6ttm8trmatpm75l2rtjmbf72rtqm7tpmctqm7ttm8p0jztpmctrm9tmm7-bk3 i tried to improve this) http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-tr5k4fk8gp784gbmfxp0bcp1iaa0edlp8m5l2riyeaf72rd2d4dl2s5mjz792snejyklcnn5gxp1jy-bk3-nakotokot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Today's Discussion Makoto Difficulty = ? (scale from 10, ofc 10 is for hard and 0 for braindead) I want everybody's opinion i tried to improve this) http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-tr5k4fk8gp784gbmfxp0bcp1iaa0edlp8m5l2riyeaf72rd2d4dl2s5mjz792snejyklcnn5gxp1jy-bk3-nakotokot Even more enhanced version http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcsx/index.html#ya0-trp0iak8gp5m617bjyfdbeoy2r9ufxlp2s5l2r5l4ef72rbtd5dl2s5mjz792sp1jyklcnitefnbjy-bk3-nakotokot%20V2 xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterMind Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Do you mean straight up combo difficulty or learning curve or what? And you chart makers are forgetting what Litchi does to little girls when she gets drunk. She shouldn't be that far towards the bottom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Cant we have an overall score ahh totally forgot about litchi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Overall: CS1: 7 CS2: 5 CSEX: 9 Being Makoto is suffering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MasterMind Report post Posted January 13, 2012 I can get behind those numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted January 13, 2012 CS1: 7.5 CS2: 3.14 CSEX: <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Woah Luna, CS2 Makoto wasn't that difficult. <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 ok break it into two points. The charactrer diffculty: ? (Means you really have to study this character to get good) The needed fundemetal skill: ? (how good you need to be as a player to use it efficiently. eg: new players does not make use of stuffs like mix ups and oki) I want to only know about EX Makoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crosell Report post Posted January 13, 2012 Extend. i'd put her at an 8-8.5 i dont think character knowledge is going to play as big of a part for makoto. Fundamentals is where its at for her. i thought i had decent fundamentals in bb till extend came out and she is really exposing my weakness in fundamentals. But they are improving vastly over the few times i've played. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 13, 2012 CS2: 3.14 Good guy Omni fixed it for you ^^ So, As a character Makoto doesn't have nirvana, neither wolf movement. Just few things need to be used to and some hard combos and you are good to go. But because she is a specialized rushdown character and excel at stuff only good players use, she needs a very good fundamentals to start using her efficiently. Difficulty: 7 Advanced Rushdown character is it cool like this? :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eshi Report post Posted January 14, 2012 I got to play a bunch of matches last night at georgia tech. I did very well when playing makoto until I played against ivysaur and got my shit pushed in. Okay, well, it wasn't that one sided when he played carl/litchi/noel. But he analyzed how I was playing Makoto, started picking Ragna and kicked the shit out of me every game. I literally couldn't take a round off him. I'm going to start studying the hell out of this match-up to make sure I know how to handle it before final round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 15, 2012 On the bright side, you did good vs Carl This time disccusion is about match ups. Everyone try to fill this match up chart for CS:EX Makoto RG: JI: NO: TG: TK: RC: AR: LI: CA: BA: HK: LA: TS: HZ: MU: VK: PL: RE: There is no match up chart on the JBBS for Makoto yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotokot Report post Posted January 15, 2012 On the bright side, you did good vs Carl This time disccusion is about match ups. RG:3.5-6.5 JI:4.5-5.5 NO:4.5-5.5 TG:5-5 TK:4.5-5.5 RC:4.5-5.5 AR:4.5-5.5 LI:5-5 CA:4-6 BA:4.5-5.5 HK:4-6 LA:5-5 TS:5-5 HZ:4.5-5.5 MU:4.5-5.5 VK:4-6 PL:5-5 RE:5-5 this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 15, 2012 Yeap, just like this. I will look for what the other characters think about Makoto on the JBBS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted January 15, 2012 Actually, I would prefer if only people that played EX for a good amount of time was the ones to comment on her match ups for the time being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted January 15, 2012 Valk is not a fun match up, just so you guys know :x Granted I'm not a Makoto god or anything, but he wasn't a Valk god either lol But yeah, Ragna and Valk are pretty tough imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Report post Posted January 15, 2012 Just expectations. am bored nothing we can do other than waiting for EX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotokot Report post Posted January 15, 2012 played with Haku, Ragna, Relius, Bang, Valk and Hazama in CSEX. Ragna is monster, you have to be god at spacing, he have much better pokes, better damage, better dp. Haku, Valk and Bang are scarry but can be beaten. Hazama is bad for Makoto. Relius is ok. There is no match up chart on the JBBS for Makoto yet. tried to search there http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1305812524/ ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
