[CSE] Jin vs Noel

[LunaKage]

oh yeah at the opening of the match it can be semi-legit. Only other time I use it at neutral is when I am max range away from Tager, because he can't punish it without Spark Bolt on Block.

But yeah at that range, it will usually go under most moves for any character, I'm just surprised you do 5C at round start, I usually expect Jin players to jump away, then it's like "FFFFFFFFFF THE CHASE IS ONN!!!!!!"

[Moy_X7]

I usually do either 66 5B or 5C at the start of a match depending on what character I'm facing. That time I just said "fuck it" and paid the consequences. Noel has a couple of moves that can go through my 5C (2D, 5D, and 3C), that's what I get lol.

[xlolxlolx]

against this bitch i just tk c ice sword or super jump block now :/

[aldreat]

Use your 2D pressure from farther than you normally would if you're going to punish her drives. Her 3C, dash 2A (which is universal), and just about all her drives allow her to dodge the attack, get in close, and punish you for 3.5K. Your 5D is a better option, even though it leaves you at negative frames and easy hit confirm. But use it at your typical 2D range (try and aim for the tip or the wolf's eye) because she can still 2a punish your dash cancel (7 start up vs -14 adv.) If you get the distance right, her 2A punishes will wiff and any drive retaliations like 5D are easily spotted, giving you enough time to continue pressure or DP.

[LunaKage]

Jin's 2D beats all of Noel's drives.

[TheYukianesa-01]

Whats the best course of action while pressuring a midscreen crouchblocking Noel? I want to 6A her but I'm afraid that her 2A will poke me out of it or/and that she'll start using her Drive. Should I just wing it anyway? Most of the time I just distance myself by using 6B > 236B. I have no problems fighting her in the corner, since I can just j.2C her easily from there.

[BlackYakuzu94]

6A is fastest overhead, use it with impunity. Keep in mind you can only combo off of it with a RC. Or you could 5A>Grab.

[Moy_X7]

Whats the best course of action while pressuring a midscreen crouchblocking Noel? I want to 6A her but I'm afraid that her 2A will poke me out of it or/and that she'll start using her Drive. Should I just wing it anyway? Most of the time I just distance myself by using 6B > 236B. I have no problems fighting her in the corner, since I can just j.2C her easily from there.

You're worried about 2A? 5A is the thing you should be worried about when they try to mash out. If you're going for 6A, do 5B > 6A although I still think that Noel can mash out of it with that dumbass 5A. If not then do 5B a few times to see whether they're mashing 5A or Drives. If they mash Drives, then 5B will tag her out of 2D or it will allow you to recover on time and block the 4D.

With that said, use 5B as oki instead of 2A as it will beat wake-up 2D or it will allow you to recover on time and block 4D.

[trini1212]

Noel is the devil!!!! I'm never jumping on her ever again. Can you list the publishers for all her D moves or if I just need to block? Most important I bait out 4d now what? And how about assault threw?

[LunaKage]

Jin is actually one of those characters that Noel should be afraid of Driving, in general really, but mostly while he's in the air. Using a well placed j.236D will make Noel sad, and that's just one example. I wish I could go into more detail but it's been so long since I've really grinded this matchup, but I remember last time I played ShinSyn he would NOT let me 4D him.

[BlackYakuzu94]

I find this matchup easy with well timed projectiles; the more you limit her movement the less she can do.