[CSE] Mu vs Jin

[Aginor]

Discuss the Jin match up here.

What to look out for:

What to do:

[C0R]

[6:50:30 PM] Lord Pwnge: Oh yeah, cor, I have a Mu-Mu question for you, what the hell do I do to get out of pressure like Jin's I was getting shut down today, it was annoying as hell

[6:51:00 PM] C0R: IB 5b(2)

[6:51:14 PM] Lord Pwnge: huh. I never would have guessed.

[6:51:24 PM] C0R: Well it's like this

[6:51:52 PM] C0R: Due to it having a second hit, it's easier to IB

[6:52:03 PM] C0R: It's also the normal that they primarily reset pressure off of

[6:52:57 PM] C0R: You also need to be using Barrier/Barrier IB vs tools like 5c jc

[6:53:34 PM] Lythium: I thought Jin's 5B was zero on block?

[6:53:44 PM] C0R: That's the reason you need to IB it

[6:53:54 PM] C0R: Else he gets this really gay pressure reset mixup off it every time

[6:54:00 PM] C0R: Like Litchi 6d

[6:54:06 PM] Lythium: Yes, so that brings it to -3?

[6:54:16 PM] C0R: That's also the reason they make those moves two hit, else they'd be way too strong

[6:54:25 PM] C0R: Yes that moves the frame advantage in your favor

[6:54:26 PM] C0R: -3

[6:54:57 PM] Lord Pwnge: Ok, then, I wonder how I'll do IB'ing on netplay...

[6:55:10 PM] Lord Pwnge: Any other spots I could run away or put an attack in?

[6:55:26 PM] C0R: Uppercut through 6c if they're foolish enough to use it in pressure

[6:55:47 PM] C0R: Jump forward against Ice edge/6d

[6:55:50 PM] Lythium: So, what do you use to punish something that's only -3? Or just backdash or whatev?

[6:56:10 PM] C0R: You can't punish it, he can chain into any number of normals

[6:56:18 PM] C0R: 2b 5c 2c 6b and the like

[6:56:41 PM] C0R: The important thing is that he has to move deeper into his gatlings in order to remain safe, forcing him to take a static end to his pressure

[6:56:46 PM] Lythium: Right... so, I guess what I'm asking is how is IBing 5B help you get out of his pressure?

[6:56:48 PM] Lythium: Ah, okay.

[6:56:53 PM] C0R: So like

[6:56:59 PM] C0R: The furthest he could go safely is

[6:57:00 PM] C0R: 5c JC

[6:57:16 PM] C0R: And when he jump cancel's you're out

[6:57:20 PM] Lythium: Gotcha, makes sense now. :3

[6:57:36 PM] Lythium: Thanks!