Dusty Report post Posted February 23, 2012 Discuss Extend match up here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Report post Posted June 24, 2012 what movement options do you guys use against rachel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lich Report post Posted June 24, 2012 what movement options do you guys use against rachel? Well, TD, why do you ask? Generally, I'm allowed to use any movement option I so desire in whatever match up I'm fighting unless its Tao, Valk, or Lambda; however, with Rachel I would say its a bit different. I just say fuck spacing and try to get in on your face. The whole time I try to look out for whatever projectile you throw out and how I can get around it. C version I try to fly straight in, but B and A version I like to take myself pretty high to the sky. Though, I tend to want to try to get in on you before you try to launch projectiles so maybe I can nick you with a chain after you shoot it out and you can't fuck me over with wind. lol Overall though, messing up movement vs. Rachel is very bad for Hazama, because when I'm out of stocks I'm a sitting duck. Unlike at ECT where I was jumping like an idiot and getting hit with 0 stocks. lol The proper thing I should have done was just chill, but you can get in for free at that point. As long as you're not being careless with setting up your shit. Hope this helps, but yeah, why do you ask? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Report post Posted June 24, 2012 l ask because believe it or not haz is my worst MU outside of haku. theres something im missing in the MU and l think its haz's movement options specifically. like how he directly goes from fullscreen to being directly in her face (such as 4dd j.6d COUNTER). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gyokuran Report post Posted June 25, 2012 I think that this matchup, the most important part is the movement against any Rachel, try to bait that 2C of her and be careful to be in situations were you are forced to block any mixups. When you are doing some pressure, remember that Rachel doesn't have too much to deal with it, don't risk too much Ressenga as overhead, just repeating 2A-5B and adding some stuff works well for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Report post Posted June 25, 2012 well, thats great info, but what l mean is, what -exactly- are you guys using in neutral involving D such as the above example (4dd j.6d). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shazam Report post Posted June 25, 2012 So basically you're asking us to post the best movement options that Hazama has against Rachel? 5dd, 6dd, j4dd dash, 4dd j4d(confirm or react), it doesnt really matter, its dependent on your placement and I move entirely according to what you are doing, or where you are. Here's a good one - j6db j6d. I like using the db to avoid lobelias sometimes. I know this might be stupid to say but the farther the chains are extended the lower Hazama's momentum will be and higher for short chains, watch out for air throw/j.a whiffs of course. for Hazamas: throw or command grab beats cat chair lolol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
