NecroTheReaper Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Nakamura is godlike, but when you compare S-tier player making S-tier character look godlike, and S-tier player making B-tier look godlike, which one -appears- more impressive? Its mostly just the comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greatfernman Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Nakamura is godlike, but when you compare S-tier player making S-tier character look godlike, and S-tier player making B-tier look godlike, which one -appears- more impressive? Its mostly just the comparison. If you didn't realize he was making the point that you saying "why is blitz being buffed nakamura was blowing people up with it" is fallacious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Im confused as to how me saying that Nakamura using and abusing the shit out of blitz in 1.1 equates to "didnt get enough use, buff it". The fact that I brought up Nakamura means NOTHING. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greatfernman Report post Posted June 12, 2015 But seriously, why did blitz have to be buffed? I feel like I watched some Nakamura rounds where he was just blitzing EVERYTHING and turning it into a 1P game Why is blitz getting buffed, nakamura was using it so well Pot shouldn't be buffed, FAB beats everybody with him You see Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted June 12, 2015 The FAB thing was a joke... you didn't get that? What part of "it almost makes me wish" didnt give that out? God this forum is more dry than the Sahara. Like I said, the only reason why I said Nakamura was because I had watched a video recently with Nakamura in it, and he went for the blitz almost every time. If someone just has a consious knowledge of blitz, they can make it work extremely well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greatfernman Report post Posted June 12, 2015 No I'm saying king of heart was telling you your statement was fallacious by mocking you with his fab example, I was just telling you that because you seemed to be completely missing his point, but then, hilariously, you completely missed mine as well I'm not talking about your response to him How are you not following, you really think he'd quote a statement about blitz and nakamura and just randomly talk about fab? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Why are we getting off topic from my conversation about blitz? The Nakamura statement wasn't a specific case, and successful uses of multiple blitz doesn't show up in only high level play. There was no reason to bring up an arguement of "top level player makes x look good" when any person can make good use of blitz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greatfernman Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Why are we getting off topic from my conversation about blitz? The Nakamura statement wasn't a specific case, and successful uses of multiple blitz doesn't show up in only high level play. There was no reason to bring up an arguement of "top level player makes x look good" when any person can make good use of blitz.I was just going to post once to tell you what kingofheart meant but you completely misunderstood. And it honestly still seems like you don't get how your statement was fallacious so ok. I give up trying to explain though, it's not important enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I thought the problem was because I said "nakamura made blitz look good" was being equated to "FAB makes Pot look good". If that's not it then nope, I'm clueless lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hollysmoke Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I thought the problem was because I said "nakamura made blitz look good" was being equated to "FAB makes Pot look good". If that's not it then nope, I'm clueless lol. Something being effective or ineffective doesn't necessarily represent the entire sample pool. If someone you play against, for example maybe a Ky player, keeps doing raw Greed Sever and you can't block it for shit all, doesn't mean it's a particularly good strategy to use all the time, or that Greed Sever is a broken move. FAB doesn't represent the entire pool of how Potemkin players play all the time, and Nakamura doesn't represent how effective blitz shielding is on a regular basis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LockedAndClush Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Something being effective or ineffective doesn't necessarily represent the entire sample pool. If someone you play against, for example maybe a Ky player, keeps doing raw Greed Sever and you can't block it for shit all, doesn't mean it's a particularly good strategy to use all the time, or that Greed Sever is a broken move. FAB doesn't represent the entire pool of how Potemkin players play all the time, and Nakamura doesn't represent how effective blitz shielding is on a regular basis. Still, it's not rare to discus such subjects in fighting games beyond the idea of "skill". Nakamura does what he does with Blitz Shield, therefore (as underutilized as it is), we can assume that BS is useful. Same for Potemkin - sure, there aren't many (maybe none) players that do Pot things as good as FAB, but that doesn't undermine the fact that he can be very, very dangerous in the right hands. Of course most players will never quite utilize certain elements of the game the same way these two players do (they're among the top Xrd players in the world for a reason), but that doesn't discount their achievements as the benchmark in theoretical discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted June 12, 2015 I can't believe you are still discussing this! Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D.R.F. Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Whoa thread plz. Anyways are the loketests all over, or do they plan for a couple more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunBlazer Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Whoa thread plz. Anyways are the loketests all over, or do they plan for a couple more? Second Loke takes place on 6/19 to 6/21. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Godsgarden # 10 GGXrd invited players vote Intermediate announcement (Titles omitted) 1FAB 2 Ogawa ==== 3 Dogura 4 Efute 5 Koichi 6 Nage 7 Nakasu bed Man 8 Nakamura 9 LOL cola 10 Gazou 11 Kunirezaru 12 Kedako 13 Sammito 14 TAKA 15 Fino 16 Mugen Taka made it. someone isn't happy about that lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LockedAndClush Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Glad to see Mugen on the list, he's always so entertaining in his play. And, of course, the one, the only "Europe is FREE" FAB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Bottom line everyone hates Elphelt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maverick Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Bottom line everyone hates Elphelt Or Ky Kiske for that matter. I'm surprised Rion or Ain didn't make it. I remember voting for Hase a couple days back but I guess he had to pull out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zhaoyun99 Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Wow, why did Hase have to pull out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youcanwonder Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Everyone hates a char just the name of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daidouji Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Bottom line everyone hates Elphelt But Koichi plays Elphelt too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakestation Report post Posted June 12, 2015 But Koichi plays Elphelt too. Well at least in the latest videos Koichi plays i-no \o/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted June 12, 2015 But Koichi plays Elphelt too.He registered in GG10 with I-NO Looks hw like decided to man up and put some effort into his actual character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kizzercrate Report post Posted June 12, 2015 Or Ky Kiske for that matter. I'm surprised Rion or Ain didn't make it. I remember voting for Hase a couple days back but I guess he had to pull out. Problem is, only Ky players like watching Ky. It's not good television to the casual viewer because he doesn't just do crazy stuff that makes you go "ooooooh"... ...well, outside of midscreen dash VT combos, but Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daidouji Report post Posted June 12, 2015 He registered in GG10 with I-NO Looks hw like decided to man up and put some effort into his actual character. That's cool,I wonder why he hasn't been using her that much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
