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Yoooooooooooooo when did Ogawa start using his Aime or whatever Arcade ranking card again? Did he start the climb again for Revelator? I remember he stopped using it early on into Vanilla Xrd.

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Yoooooooooooooo when did Ogawa start using his Aime or whatever Arcade ranking card again? Did he start the climb again for Revelator? I remember he stopped using it early on into Vanilla Xrd.

Yeah he did along with other players like Nakamura I believe.

Im gonna come out and say it because maybe its just me but...Jack-O is wack, im sorry but her dumb voice and playstyle to me is just really lame. Quite frankly they should have just made Raven playable instead of Jack-O.

I never thought I would say this but I actually prefer Revelator Elphelt over Jack-O. Just my opinion maybe others feel the same, idk.

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Yeah he did along with other players like Nakamura I believe.

Im gonna come out and say it because maybe its just me but...Jack-O is wack, im sorry but her dumb voice and playstyle to me is just really lame. Quite frankly they should have just made Raven playable instead of Jack-O.

I never thought I would say this but I actually prefer Revelator Elphelt over Jack-O. Just my opinion maybe others feel the same, idk.

You have to remember that Jack-O is a completely new character. I'm pretty sure before the console release we'll see her get some fine-tuning (Ram, Bed and Pot could use some too). Everyone isn't going to like every character. That's why we have more than one choice (really, really wish the whole original cast was already available) to choose from.

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Played with Jam a little today. She seems kind of fun, but I've never known how to play her so I dunno. It took me way too long to realize you can chain her special, lol. Thought you needed to power them up first.

I feel like her qcf kick used to have a bigger hitbox, based on super casual single player play from XX through AC. In other words, I have nothing to talk about...but it whiffs an awful lot, it looks like it would have a bigger hitbox. 

I really liked her light blue outfit when I saw it in a screenshot but it looks little worse in person. Still ok though. I don't get it, X'rd is a great looking game but I feel like it has an awful lot of ugly palettes. Jack-O's are good at least.

I'm a tool so I voted for Dizzy. I really want Zappa too, but considering how Jam wound up looking, Dizzy has more potential I think. :v:

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Wait, is jam out on consoles??? Also do i need to buy revelator or is my old copy good, did the do any move fixes I DUNNO AHHHHH

Believe it or not, but some Dustloop users are currently in Japan and can play the game in the arcades.

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Yeah he did along with other players like Nakamura I believe.

Im gonna come out and say it because maybe its just me but...Jack-O is wack, im sorry but her dumb voice and playstyle to me is just really lame. Quite frankly they should have just made Raven playable instead of Jack-O.

I never thought I would say this but I actually prefer Revelator Elphelt over Jack-O. Just my opinion maybe others feel the same, idk.

Good news, you don't have to play as her. That's the beauty of a fighting game.

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Good news, you don't have to play as her. That's the beauty of a fighting game.

To be fair it still means you have to play against her.

It's why I hope English Jam isn't garbage because listening to JP Jam gives me a headache.

I'd agree that Jack-o's visual design is pretty piss-poor but her minions make up for it IMO.

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You know, I'm pretty hyped for Jack-O, but I saw some non-loketest footage of her for the first time last night and she looks like she might be a more extreme version of Millia's "don't let the other guy play the game" style of gameplay.  Looks like she has a lot going for her.  Some of those things look like bugs that need to be fixed though, like being able to do her attack-throw, point it upward so that they're launched off screen, then RC into her command throw and have that actually combo despite it being like 3X the range of Sterilization Method.  Or comboing into her regular or super command throw at all.

Good thing they have like 6 months to figure out how they want to re-balance everyone before it hits consoles.  Some characters still need love after 1.1, and Jack-O is looking kinda nuts.  Getting meter for being near a Ghost is kind of a huge deal, and I'm not sure if anyone realizes just how powerful that is with Xrd's cancel system.

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You know, I'm pretty hyped for Jack-O, but I saw some non-loketest footage of her for the first time last night and she looks like she might be a more extreme version of Millia's "don't let the other guy play the game" style of gameplay. 

Yeah, that's my worry with her.

Also Jack-o's JP voice is pretty garbage too but it's not a dealbreaker like with Jam.

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So Oct 2nd is halfway point and we finally d out who's winning polls right? As for jams voice...hasn't changed..annoying but I'll deal w it..I dont like any of the English voiced so whatevs I use jpn voices

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Maybe because that's the entire point of her character?

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You know, I'm pretty hyped for Jack-O, but I saw some non-loketest footage of her for the first time last night and she looks like she might be a more extreme version of Millia's "don't let the other guy play the game" style of gameplay.  Looks like she has a lot going for her.  Some of those things look like bugs that need to be fixed though, like being able to do her attack-throw, point it upward so that they're launched off screen, then RC into her command throw and have that actually combo despite it being like 3X the range of Sterilization Method.  Or comboing into her regular or super command throw at all.

Good thing they have like 6 months to figure out how they want to re-balance everyone before it hits consoles.  Some characters still need love after 1.1, and Jack-O is looking kinda nuts.  Getting meter for being near a Ghost is kind of a huge deal, and I'm not sure if anyone realizes just how powerful that is with Xrd's cancel system.

That bug has been fixed afaik

She's also a less extreme version of Millia, she takes so much time to be able to even set up setplay, whereas Millia just has it all the time.

If you're talking about one player neutral, then Millia doesn't have that, and Jack-O doesn't until she gets multiple levelled up goons and even then it's hard for the opponent but she still has to work around the opponent because it's not like the goons absorb hits.

I still have no solid idea of how strong Jack-O is but i'm sure that at this point of the game she is not nearly as strong as Millia.

 

Johnny on the other hand...

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Good thing they have like 6 months to figure out how they want to re-balance everyone before it hits consoles.  Some characters still need love after 1.1, and Jack-O is looking kinda nuts.  Getting meter for being near a Ghost is kind of a huge deal, and I'm not sure if anyone realizes just how powerful that is with Xrd's cancel system.

It is powerful, though from what I've seen Jack-O' gets pretty cornered if you can make sure her ghostly minions aren't around. Some characters have an easier time of this than others. Potemkin might be an easy target for them but someone like say Faust can straight up murder them and Jack-O' in the process from what I've seen. Then again, new character syndrome and all that rot. We'll see where she ends up 3 months from now and then console release.

Also Jack-o's JP voice is pretty garbage too but it's not a dealbreaker like with Jam.

Eh, at least Jack-O' has the alternate "mature" lady voice to go with her which is all kinds of vocal sexy so you can at least enjoy half of it ;). As for Jam, well I've lived through years of Platinum's (Luna) JP voice to the point where Jam's vocal pitch and constant "aruuuuu" might as well sound like Beethoven's 5th in comparison.

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That bug has been fixed afaik

She's also a less extreme version of Millia, she takes so much time to be able to even set up setplay, whereas Millia just has it all the time.

If you're talking about one player neutral, then Millia doesn't have that, and Jack-O doesn't until she gets multiple levelled up goons and even then it's hard for the opponent but she still has to work around the opponent because it's not like the goons absorb hits.

I still have no solid idea of how strong Jack-O is but i'm sure that at this point of the game she is not nearly as strong as Millia.

 

Johnny on the other hand...




Millia is definitely a strong character.
But she is strong because there are many Millia specialists with 10+ years of experience who managed to draw her full potential.

Same thing for Johnny.

Ramlathal wasn't a thing until Karinchou showed her true strength.

I still think that Elphelt is the biggest problem here, no one reached her full potential.
The closest player to that is Hambagu and we all saw what he did to Nakamura in TG.
Also many strong teams were OCVed by her in Arc revo.

Jack-O on the other hand has some really good set of moves.
- meterless anti cross up reversal ( you can safe jump it but it doesn't put her in crouching or CH state like Sol,Ky)
- command throw even in air.
- very good set of normals
- super low profile crouching state.
- super crazy meter gain if she has 6 servants.

Fighting her is kinda similar to fighting Zappa since you don't want the houses to reach level 3 and you don't want Zappa to get Raoh.


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Jack-O is ok I think.

I'm much more afraid of Johnny. He looks incredibly retarded (gameplay wise).

It looks like once he set up his unblockable, you are done for. And it's a piece of cake to set it up.

I hope this thing gets nerfed before the console release.

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Jack-O is ok I think.

I'm much more afraid of Johnny. He looks incredibly retarded (gameplay wise).

It looks like once he set up his unblockable, you are done for. And it's a piece of cake to set it up.

I hope this thing gets nerfed before the console release.




Johnny is really hard in this game.
His combos are super character specific.

Also these unblockables require alot of recourses like meter and coins.

I fought alot of Johnnys and the only thing i didn't like was his backdash and it was fixed in the new version.

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IMO, Jam's voice is MUCH WORSE now than it was before. It really shouldn't bother me though since I'm the one that's gonna be playing her.

From what I've seen of Jack-O (which really isn't much), it'll be tough for characters like Leo to get in. But I really don't know what I'm talking about though.

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I'd agree that Jack-o's visual design is pretty piss-poor but her minions make up for it IMO.

I don't even like Jack-o, but would play her only because of the damn lovely ghosts and overall unorthodox fighting style (that's what made Zappa fun).

 

Johnny's bacchus sign setups are kinda out of control from what i've seen so far (not that i've seen much).

Hated Jam's voice back then in X, still hate it in Xrd.

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So Jam's idle animation is badass as fucccccccccccccccccccccck

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True unblockables(i.e. elphelt, not zato)are already dumb, but being able to loop it is so silly I can't even be upset.

You can at least blitz the mist finer like you can IB > blitz(?) elphelt right?

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