king of heart Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched.Also Johnny had these unblockables since AC at least why people are overreacting.Karinchou has always been a top ranker with Ram and Millia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavymetalmixer Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched.Also Johnny had these unblockables since AC at least why people are overreacting.Karinchou has always been a top ranker with Ram and Millia. This MUST be pached . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clousephinat Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched.Also Johnny had these unblockables since AC at least why people are overreacting.Karinchou has always been a top ranker with Ram and Millia. Because there's this thing called... YRC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Because there's this thing called... YRCYRC won't come out unless your opponent is in neutral state.Back in XX you can still FRC if your opponent is still knocked down.This set up require like 50% meter and 3 coins to be perfect.Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Because there's this thing called... YRCYRC won't come out unless your opponent is in neutral state.Back in XX you can still FRC if your opponent is still knocked down.This set up require like 50% meter and 3 coins to be perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4r5 Report post Posted September 27, 2015 We GGX Johnny out here?Most Johnny unblockables are escaped by a simple IB + backdash. "Guaranteed" setups use up a ton of meter and coins, but with proper management of your own resources, you can escape them with a DeadAngle through the Mist Finer. (Now that Level 3 Mist Finers are only one hit, instead of nine.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Millia is definitely a strong character.But she is strong because there are many Millia specialists with 10+ years of experience who managed to draw her full potential Bolded for emphasis... now if only we could get more "experts" to draw out the potential of other characters in the roster. I have to be honest, no one uses Bedman very often that I see, or if they do it's only a small number... to say nothing of the small clique of Justice players in ACPlusR, much less anyone else.I truly wish other characters got the loving touch of a good player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Bolded for emphasis... now if only we could get more "experts" to draw out the potential of other characters in the roster. I have to be honest, no one uses Bedman very often that I see, or if they do it's only a small number... to say nothing of the small clique of Justice players in ACPlusR, much less anyone else.I truly wish other characters got the loving touch of a good player.There are super good Bedman that aren't well known.Like Sabamiso from Nagoya and Shuu from Hokkaido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoWL Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched. I wonder what's the reason behind that. Does she not get the increased hitstun while crouching? If so, I wonder how no one noticed it until now (or how the bug got through, for that matter). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Layer Report post Posted September 27, 2015 Cuz even the QA people at Arc don't like Millia and don't use her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 28, 2015 http://blog.livedoor.jp/ruubr/archives/cat_1240353.html Incomplete framedata. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pomparomp Report post Posted September 28, 2015 I wonder what's the reason behind that. Does she not get the increased hitstun while crouching? If so, I wonder how no one noticed it until now (or how the bug got through, for that matter).if the latter was true then Venom would have zero confirms on a crouching jam. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XXXDC Report post Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Also Johnny had these unblockables since AC at least why people are overreacting. Yes but you needed specific corner enkasu setups, because doing random knockdown into mist FRC didn't give enough advantage for an unblockable. In XRD he "seems" to get unblockable setups out of almost everything near corner on every match (again from what i've seen so far). Edited September 28, 2015 by XXXDC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted September 28, 2015 Yes but you needed specific corner enkasu setups, because doing random knockdown into mist FRC didn't give enough advantage for an unblockable. In XRD he "seems" to get unblockable setups out of almost everything near corner on every match (again from what i've seen so far).I would say the same thing about +R if i only kept watching Satou matches.Karinchou isn't invincible he does lose off stream.Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dream Maker Report post Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched. Back in the AC days:- Anji's 2D into S Fuujin didn't combo on the heaviest characters- Faust could simply crouch walk under some butterfly okizeme setups- HS Fuujin into Rin loops would quite often miss on Ky at certain distancesAnd in Xrd Sin's 6HS whiffs on crouching Faust and May (maybe changed in Revelator, but I don't know, haven't had time to play it yet). All these things pissed me off to no end but I still got over it. I don't think this needs a fix, this game always had wonky hitboxes and things that wouldn't work on specific characters for whatever reason, hence the need for character specific combos/setups.A character as strong as Millia is probably fine anyway and it's not like 6K is her only mixup option for overheads... Edited September 28, 2015 by Dream Maker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clousephinat Report post Posted September 28, 2015 YRC won't come out unless your opponent is in neutral state.Back in XX you can still FRC if your opponent is still knocked down.This set up require like 50% meter and 3 coins to be perfect.Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk YRC also comes out if you use it at the right time just when your opponent is getting up, as a I-No player I know that too well, and unlike with FRC YRC forces your opponent to respect you, I'm pretty sure it makes him do his unblockables more easier, since the new RC system will allow him to do more than just doing FRC at a specific time so it can work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Knight Report post Posted September 28, 2015 Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched.Also Johnny had these unblockables since AC at least why people are overreacting.Karinchou has always been a top ranker with Ram and Millia. Do you know if anyone checked whether or not 6K > 5K [2S or fS] > S disc worked on crouching Jam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daymendou Report post Posted September 28, 2015 Something I noticed about Elphelt in Revelator that I hope someone can confirm: if you Blitz her successfully while she's holding a grenade, it removes the grenade and rejects her normally.Currently, if you Blitz her with grenade, the grenade self destructs and ends the rejection state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted September 29, 2015 There are super good Bedman that aren't well known.Like Sabamiso from Nagoya and Shuu from Hokkaido.Hire these guys as mods and get them on the research team, lolBut seriously, I think we need more people who know what they're talking about on these forums writing tips and guides and such. I mean yeah, we get some occasionally, but seems like it's few and far between.Like, years ago, I saw a really GOOD guide for Dizzy that covered a bunch of stuff about her I never even knew existed (like negative edging her floating spear thingie). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Hire these guys as mods and get them on the research team, lolBut seriously, I think we need more people who know what they're talking about on these forums writing tips and guides and such. I mean yeah, we get some occasionally, but seems like it's few and far between.Like, years ago, I saw a really GOOD guide for Dizzy that covered a bunch of stuff about her I never even knew existed (like negative edging her floating spear thingie).Good player isn't always a good teacher and vice versa.Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
www.keeponrock.in Report post Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Millia's 6K into S disc doesn't combo on crouching Jam, I think this will need to be patched."She's the new Zappa" -Teyah on Jam Edited September 29, 2015 by www.keeponrock.in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poultrygeist Report post Posted September 29, 2015 Hire these guys as mods and get them on the research team, lolBut seriously, I think we need more people who know what they're talking about on these forums writing tips and guides and such. I mean yeah, we get some occasionally, but seems like it's few and far between.Like, years ago, I saw a really GOOD guide for Dizzy that covered a bunch of stuff about her I never even knew existed (like negative edging her floating spear thingie).You really didn't know that? I thought that was like basic Dizzy 101, because it means they won't just hit buttons in your pressure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted September 30, 2015 I know that "now", but that's not something you pick up necessarily if you only messed with Dizzy in GGX and GGXX. I didn't know Negative Edge existed until Isuka I think.I'm sure there's plenty of secrets and stuff only players who main a specific character would "know" about that character that nobody else would know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youcanwonder Report post Posted September 30, 2015 I know that "now", but that's not something you pick up necessarily if you only messed with Dizzy in GGX and GGXX. I didn't know Negative Edge existed until Isuka I think.I'm sure there's plenty of secrets and stuff only players who main a specific character would "know" about that character that nobody else would knI found out about neg edge in slash. But I never used it. I know baiken had some useful uses for it but I was fine wo it. But like u said some char prolly had better uses for it...I just did shit on my own tho. End of the day it's just what people are comfortable using. I still don't use alot of tactic people use..option selects and what not .lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youcanwonder Report post Posted October 1, 2015 We find out mid pole results today right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites