Layer Report post Posted April 15, 2015 You mean I'm not supposed to flowchart Greed Saver on wake up/oki/match start/punish/pressure/neutral/post burst? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hollysmoke Report post Posted April 15, 2015 Hence the "newer players" comment. But Ky is strong in this game!His 6HS in 1.1 is even stronger now! The meaty, it's juicy and delicious Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HardSlash Report post Posted April 15, 2015 But so is reversal blitz... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destin Report post Posted April 15, 2015 Yeah the buff to reversal blitz is actually a huge deal for ky. Maybe more than any other char. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HardSlash Report post Posted April 15, 2015 Maybe for 6hs sake, but he's got plenty of oki beyond that. He's almost never close enough for any of his projectiles to get hit with the new effect. And of course, just keep an eye on your opponents meter. I think Ky will be just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pomparomp Report post Posted April 16, 2015 Yeah the buff to reversal blitz is actually a huge deal for ky. Maybe more than any other char. Ky's projectile oki is blitzproof. The grinder hs stun edge makes contact long before ky is in their face. Â Unlike, say, venom, who needs to make contact at the same time as the ball or be flying over them as the ball hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted April 16, 2015 Saw a glitch involving Blitz-shielding Potemkin's ICPM on tumblr, not sure how it works, but if someone can explain it to me, much obliged. Â Also, to anyone going to AX this year for Daisuke, please do me a favor... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChexGuy Report post Posted April 16, 2015 Seems to have something to do with air blitz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KceQr7PXSTU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destin Report post Posted April 16, 2015 Ky's projectile oki is blitzproof. The grinder hs stun edge makes contact long before ky is in their face. Unlike, say, venom, who needs to make contact at the same time as the ball or be flying over them as the ball hits. His 6h however, is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pomparomp Report post Posted April 16, 2015 If you think just being able to mash out blitz is going to effect Ky the most, a character with really strong blitzproof set ups even in 1.1, I'm not really sure you understand that most of the cast don't have reversal or blitzproof oki in 1.0. Even Millia has to watch out for it.  Like, yeah sure, you'll have to worry about it mid-screen but most characters can't ever escape having to worry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destin Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Ky has by far the most telegraphed to reversal blitz pressure that I can think of. Watching 1.1 I see more of his 6h blitzed on wakeup than anything else.  It's not the end of the world for ky, ky players are already switching around their wakeup. I don't know if I like 3f reversal window for 6h though anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Doesnt that make 6H wiff mindgames indirectly better? Build up all that disrespect when they see 6H then watch them stand there like an idiot after they blitz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pomparomp Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Doesnt that make 6H wiff mindgames indirectly better? Build up all that disrespect when they see 6H then watch them stand there like an idiot after they blitz  Does ky have counter hit combos? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted April 17, 2015 I think CH 2H leads to somethin good? Idk, I play Bedman. I just know that wiff 6H shenanigans was already a thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zouf Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Does ky have counter hit combos? CH c.5S > 6HS > *You wa Shock plays in background* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BladeOfJustice7 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 So, does ramlethal suck now? I see she's like the only character not played in 1.1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted April 17, 2015 She's only sucks if she's not OP in Japan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Destin Report post Posted April 17, 2015 Doesnt that make 6H wiff mindgames indirectly better? Build up all that disrespect when they see 6H then watch them stand there like an idiot after they blitz That's actually not exactly how it works. See, they could still BS the same as in 1.0 and nothing got better. The fact that they can now BS super easy moves the Nash equilibrium towards ky having to bait more often, which is bad for him. It's like saying sol having a great do makes baiting him stronger. Yes it does! But overall it's still better to have the dp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NecroTheReaper Report post Posted April 17, 2015 6H has like virtually no recovery, but even then, he's got j.D and CSE oki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stellarcircle5 Report post Posted April 17, 2015 In regards to Millia, yes her oki is really strong and really simple. Now go try to dominate neutral and see how far you get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hollysmoke Report post Posted April 17, 2015 So, does ramlethal suck now? I see she's like the only character not played in 1.1. Â For the most part, people who were playing her were new players to Guilty Gear and were just being metaslaves. This isn't a slight to the people who are legitimately good, it's just a phase that new players to a series go through. The second loketest put her in a good spot but not ridiculous to deal with once you're trapped in the corner. Character loyalty is hard when your main isn't in Xrd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
muerto Report post Posted April 18, 2015 kuni and daiji still play and shes still pretty good, just not ridiculous there's some videos on the ramlethal video thread in her subforum if you want to see it yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreiko Report post Posted April 18, 2015 I have seen some VERY good Ramlethal stuff in 1.1 so I dunno. She's not bad by any means, just weaker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakestation Report post Posted April 18, 2015 http://www.twitch.tv/joniosan Nob vs Taka ft10. Mikado weekly saturday tournament later on today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimboslash Report post Posted April 18, 2015 No news for the patch console? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites