[CT] Bang The Older Hero Threads MERGED: Use the search function!

[Allelujah]

After Bang whiff's a 6C, he goes into a similar pose. Tager used a magnet move while Bang was Magnetized, causing him to move forward in said pose.

damn your smart man haha thanks for clearing it up!

[TornAparT]

the only time ive seen it used well is by Dora against Tager. Dora would burst then throw D nails right away then do the Umbrella super. If the Tager rolled it would get hit by the D nail then get hit by the super. I only use this super for the lulz

[Reioumu]

Yeah, in most situations Steel Rain is near useless, but definitely has lulzy properties though.

[zeth07]

Here's my Day 2 matches. I went into training mode and practiced very basic combos and could pull em off but once i got into actual matches it wasn't the same. I was constantly doing Forward+A instead of A or Down+A to try and start combos. I definitely need to stop doing Furinkazan just to do it cause it gets me killed when I still have chances to win, at least til I can utilize it properly. I also need to remember to use Barrier blocking more because there is no reason not to. Obviously gotta keep working on the combos.

Day 2 - Match 1 - - Arakune (nakasima3125) vs Bang (zeth07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLUrxwomOUw

*Match Note* - I made a crazy/lucky comeback with ZERO life left to win the match

Day 2 - Match 2 - Hakumen (KOFkilla) vs Bang (zeth07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLKku82ZSkY

*Match Note* - Sloppy, Furinkazan stupidly although in that rd I was near death anyway.

Day 2 - Match 3 - Nu (Buchanans18) vs Bang (zeth07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbqrvQcNJVY

*Match Note* - Furinkazan loss again. They did kill me with a fancy finish last rd though.

Day 2 - Match 4 - Jin (joeyroaddog) vs Bang (zeth07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6FBzndmKw

*Match Note* - I get beat by Jin "spam", I Furinkazan out of cockiness this time and lose.

Day 2 - Match 5 - Ragna (joeyroaddog) vs Bang (zeth07)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlosYL5NzPM

*Match Note* - Accidental Steel Rain after I beat em the 1st round.

[NuSaeline]

The ONLY reason I try to get this move every round is so I can do 6a/5c, activate, 2b, 2c, dash cancel, 2b, uf airdash, j.a.j.b, ub airdash, jb, command throw.

Half life off a hit confirmable 50/50 sounds good to me (yayyyyy)

I would recommend never doing that against a good Nu player.... or Arakune.

[Robbie.C<3]

I suppose it depends on how experienced you are with that state. Maybe go to training and learn some combo's with it then you will feel more comfortable.

[Nozziedemon]

I know you can combo in to it but is there really strict timing or something I'm not getting?

[JinSaotome]

you havew to JC the 6D during your 623B command by inputting something like 5A 5B 2B 2C 6D 6239B theres a few strategies over in the "How to be a Hero" thread :3

[Nozziedemon]

I'm not familiar with your terms. What exactly is JC?

[Nihzlet]

Jump Cancel.

[Nozziedemon]

So theres rapid cancel and jump cancel?

[JinSaotome]

Sort of, Jump cancelling is cancelling a move simply by jumping (often done in air combos) that costs nothing, kind of like moves that are special cancellable (i.e. cancelling Ragna's 5D into Hell's Fang). Bang's Drive moves are all jump cancellable on hit or block, but his 6D isn't special cancellable. However, Jumps in any fighting game have a miniscule (3~ frames usually) startup where the character is still considered on the ground. The idea is to jump out of 6D to cancel it, then do the 623B to cancel the jump. Like I said, I find the easiest way of doing it is to input 6D 62369B

[A:B:A]

I hate that input, I always input the move too early

[SWBeta]

Hold 9 as you do the 6D, and when the kick connects, quickly slide from 9 to the 623B motion.

[SWBeta]

BB is my first real 2D fighter (tekken and sc player). 2D is freaking hard, man. Cross ups, corners, DPs, etc. are ridiculous. Doesn't help that I play pad as well. Never had so much frustration playing a game before. And since Bang is one that has to work pretty hard for his wins, I was raging pretty hard at the end of our gaming session.

A few vids of some matches we played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx6EBmGepes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZUDQp5hkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZEqNY8RCeI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PssbBZ7awvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdPSw0l5qvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFyumHwBlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caxW0CCIGZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19f_yP762k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZ3nXFWeSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yxSfLaIcdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JRCuhLBulY

As you can see, not very good.

[Reioumu]

What I do is after 6D hits. Yes, after it HITS then you input the command. I do 923B, it's the same idea as doing IAD with 96 since it's counting a an 8 and a 6 at the same time. It works for me at least

[Order Jeff]

Well I beat a Tager player once by going from 2D (CH) into an aerial 5B then command grab, RC the last hit and throw the umbrella out (100 heat required), catches him on the way up for most of the hits. I happened to have all my nails so it went up to around 60 hits then he was able to tech, got him with chip after he started blocking. I can't remember if it combo'd or not but yeah. Might also work with RC'ing a ground command grab like the setup for daifunka? Maybe I'll test this weekend.

[Order Jeff]

I really have no idea where this goes so if it should be moved elsewhere, mods feel free. I was wondering if anyone has footage from Anime Expo where Toshimichi Mori fought as Noel against a pink Bang (me). I activated Fuurinkazan twice and it was pretty epic to fight him so, yeah, if you have video or pics please share .

[AtTheGates]

FINALLY some NEZU BANG vids! (note: those are old, i guess i missed them, but they are MUST SEE.)

1. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378280 <- vs. rachel. insane match.

2. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378161 < vs. hakumen, some nice combos

3. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378321 <- crazy combo in the corner with a bumper (vs. crouch opp, combo into 2B, ]jump, 2-dash, land, 5A, 2B[ x N )

[Nerok]

Im pretty sure this could go into the video discussion, try to refrain from posting to much random stuff. The forums are all cluttered as is right now. ^^;

[Reioumu]

BB is my first real 2D fighter (tekken and sc player). 2D is freaking hard, man. Cross ups, corners, DPs, etc. are ridiculous. Doesn't help that I play pad as well. Never had so much frustration playing a game before. And since Bang is one that has to work pretty hard for his wins, I was raging pretty hard at the end of our gaming session.

A few vids of some matches we played.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx6EBmGepes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZUDQp5hkQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZEqNY8RCeI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PssbBZ7awvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdPSw0l5qvM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKFyumHwBlg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caxW0CCIGZs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19f_yP762k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZ3nXFWeSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yxSfLaIcdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JRCuhLBulY

As you can see, not very good.

You need to be more aggressive. After you knock down your opponent, you need to limit their options any way possible, B/D shurikens, bumpers, j.4D crossup, grab on getup, etc. Bang isn't a character that should be relying on everything to start with counters or autoguard 2d. You need to make your opponent afraid of you.

At the Gates, nice vids of Nezu... I loved the j.a j.b 5a 5b 2b 6c j.D 2369c 5d j.b j.c against Hakumen in the 2nd match. Nezu's Bang is really nice.

That Rachel in the first match was pretty ridiculous.

[AtTheGates]

I loved the j.a j.b 5a 5b 2b 6b j.D 2369c 5d j.b j.c against Hakumen in the 2nd match.

should be 6C instead of 6B ^^

[SWBeta]

You need to be more aggressive. After you knock down your opponent, you need to limit their options any way possible, B/D shurikens, bumpers, j.4D crossup, grab on getup, etc. Bang isn't a character that should be relying on everything to start with counters or autoguard 2d. You need to make your opponent afraid of you.

Against Litchi, I can't even get close to knock her down because I get pushed out by everything when I try to approach. She has a long range low and mid poke, which keeps me back, and DP to keep me out of the air. If I'm able to get close, everything I try on the ground is always stuffed by her knee, and everything in the air is stuffed by her jumping kick. Even my standing/jumping A's. If I am able to have the chance to attack, he blocks low, so I can't apply any pressure with A > B > 2B, so I have to start with 3 or 6B... then out comes the knee into combo. I don't know what to do.

What can be done in situations when you're getting bum-rushed in the corner? As you can see from the videos, I don't know wtf to do. I think one time, by luck, I got an autoguard to connect and I teleported out.

Edit: nvm, remembered my nico info.

[Reioumu]

should be 6C instead of 6B ^^

ty. will edit in

If I am able to have the chance to attack, he blocks low

Use an overhead or take a chance with grab then.

You need to be smart about approaching Litchi since she does have that good mid-range on you. Don't forget about your nails. C-nails tend to give you a little bit of time to dash in whether it hits or gets blocked.

As for getting rushed, well there are breaks which you need to watch out for. It sucks having to block for awhile, but you need to wait for the right time, or use some barrier when it's needed. There are usually ways around nearly everything in the game.

Also take a look at the matchup discussion, it helps a bit.

[DaiAndOh]

FINALLY some NEZU BANG vids! (note: those are old, i guess i missed them, but they are MUST SEE.)

1. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378280 <- vs. rachel. insane match.

2. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378161 < vs. hakumen, some nice combos

3. http://de.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6378321 <- crazy combo in the corner with a bumper (vs. crouch opp, combo into 2B, ]jump, 2-dash, land, 5A, 2B[ x N )

Nice! I plan on updating my threads tonight (EST), these will be awesome!