[CF] Blazblue CENTRAL FICTION: News and Gameplay Discussion

[Calamitus]

Are you sure? We watched Lambda and Terumi die but here we are.

Mori already speaks about tag-team, they will either use that to keep all characters or go for full 3D like Xrd and remove most of them. Well, that's just my pointless speculation so nevermind.

 

F there is an "after".

It does not matter. I'm going to main her anyway.

[Luminos564]

I'm tired of having to. We're almost entirely to the end of this, and I still have yet to get what I want, so yes, i'm rather upset that literally everyone but him at this point is in as a usable character, especially when it just seems like weird excuses not to add him. Hibiki got added because, well, he's in the plot I guess, but, was there ever any indication he could fight? I have absolutely no idea who Naoto Kurogane is, and it just seems like a jab at Persona Naoto. Nine makes sense, so I can't be upset with her at all. I'm actually more surprised you can even say something like "demanding the tracks be altered to your specific needs" at this point, considering how many games and years its been, and how long Jubei has been desired. Why is anyone defending this or liking it? It is the definition of stupidity and injustice that he's not in.

 

I'm well aware that they will probably add more characters later, console exclusives, DLC, and some for Extend incentives, and yes, it does make business sense to have Jubei in Extend, but it's also being a huge dick to the fans by prolonging his playable appearance to the very last iteration, denying him any chance of balance adjustments, new moves, etc if he turns out bad in his first run, if he does get added. I want Jubei in, but, I want him to be able to be fine tuned, since ASW rarely hits the intended mark the first time.

 

EDIT: And, I hate BBCPEX for its absolutely terrible balance decisions alongside the useless addition of Lambda. Celica, as much as I don't like her, and as much as she shouldn't be fighting, is part of the story, and my beef with her is the same with Hibiki, where it's fine that they were added eventually, but, they showed no fighting prowess, and it just seemed like doing anything and everything to dodge adding Jubei.

 

Sigh, I said I wish to not be confrontational and I will stick to it. Instead of being smug and putting on my Admiral Asshole Hat, I'll do something more sensible: do a bit of informing instead since you are making a few assumptions.

 

1. Mori has stated before that the next BB (that being CF) is only the end of RAGNA'S story. He never stated that there will not be further BB entries. With the amount of lore, terminology and other plot elements abound, there is plenty of means of continuing the BB universe for further installments.

 

2. Hibiki was alluded to being a potent force as mAc mentioned. Furthermore, he's Kagura's personal aide and confidante, something which would necessitate having at least some level of combat proficiency.

 

3. Naoto is not a wink wink nudge nudge to Persona 4 Naoto. In case you missed the past pages in this thread, he's the central protagonist of Bloodedge Experience novels. I do not blame you for not knowing much about him since the novels rarely see western exposure but that is no reason to not look him up on your own instead of jumping to conclusions.

 

4. OK so Jubei may only get the 1 game and representation. But have you not forgotten that with digital downloads it is very easy to balance him out? Have you forgotten that we got that CSII patch for free that really fixed the balance of pre 2.0 Valkenhayn? ASW makes some dumb decisions I admit, but just because they make mistakes that does not mean they're incapable of fixing them.

 

5. I will grant you Celica since I've always felt Mori included her more out of her popularity with the Japanese fans (they cannot get enough of her), but I am also not going to go and rage about it either. I like new additions to the roster. It adds variety and to simply spit it back into ASW's face because it isn't what I asked for seems a little too...uncalled for in my opinion. The same crap happened with Skullgirls and it's vote-based DLC where people were being whiny little crabs about getting character Z when they wanted character X.

 

My point is, try to be a bit more open minded. You've stuck with the game long enough haven't you? Even though you had EVERY opportunity to leave it behind and not look back until you received what you wanted, but yet here you are. You get me? If so, good. Now have a nice day and do try to find a bit of positive in these news ok?

[TekkamanArk]

For positives, I will have to say new characters are nice. Naoto looks...odd, so i'd need to know more about him. Hibiki looks pretty cool in motion. I am a little bugged that Jubei is the last of the Six Heroes to get put in now, but, I have been interested in seeing how Nine's magic will work.

[Poultrygeist]

I'm tired of having to. We're almost entirely to the end of this, and I still have yet to get what I want, so yes, i'm rather upset that literally everyone but him at this point is in as a usable character, especially when it just seems like weird excuses not to add him. Hibiki got added because, well, he's in the plot I guess, but, was there ever any indication he could fight? I have absolutely no idea who Naoto Kurogane is, and it just seems like a jab at Persona Naoto. Nine makes sense, so I can't be upset with her at all. I'm actually more surprised you can even say something like "demanding the tracks be altered to your specific needs" at this point, considering how many games and years its been, and how long Jubei has been desired. Why is anyone defending this or liking it? It is the definition of stupidity and injustice that he's not in.

 

I'm well aware that they will probably add more characters later, console exclusives, DLC, and some for Extend incentives, and yes, it does make business sense to have Jubei in Extend, but it's also being a huge dick to the fans by prolonging his playable appearance to the very last iteration, denying him any chance of balance adjustments, new moves, etc if he turns out bad in his first run, if he does get added. I want Jubei in, but, I want him to be able to be fine tuned, since ASW rarely hits the intended mark the first time.

 

EDIT: And, I hate BBCPEX for its absolutely terrible balance decisions alongside the useless addition of Lambda. Celica, as much as I don't like her, and as much as she shouldn't be fighting, is part of the story, and my beef with her is the same with Hibiki, where it's fine that they were added eventually, but, they showed no fighting prowess, and it just seemed like doing anything and everything to dodge adding Jubei.

Boo fucking hoo.  I've wanted Raven playable in GG since his first appearance in X2 story mode and that was before BB even existed, seniority bro.  You don't see me going into every single GG thread and shitting all over the game with "THIS IS TRASH WHERE'S RAVEN FUCK DAISUKE" to peopl ewho are excited.  

 

Also that whole deal with Hibiki not fighting?  That was also the case with Kokonoe.  And Relius.  And Makoto.  And Tsubaki.  And every other character that was an NPC who didn't fight in story mode before becoming playable.

[VermilionBird]

http://abyss-of-the-azure.tumblr.com/post/123969382693/naoto-kurogane

This should give you the absolute bare basic rundown on who Naoto is.

[D.R.F.]

I'm ready for ragna's one new crappy move get hype

[SixWingedAngel]

How come we don't get BLACK RAGNA? This doesn't make much of a sense unless ragna starts incapacitated/bound in the story. There is also a picture where jin is facing a possessed ragna so I hope we do get a new character out of him.

[BlackYakuzu94]

That reminds me, on average we get three additional characters; ones for arcade and then ones for console. Right now we got Hibiki, Naoto, and Nine. That leaves at least three more slots for console and that's not counting the inevitable Extend release. 

 

So yea, Jubei may or may not be coming to console, but its pretty obvious Mori is saving him for last. That also leaves room for an actual alternate to Ragna if they choose to do so. But who else can they add with relevance....

[Myoro]

I wonder if they'll change the "hitting the opponent" sound effect.

 

First thing I noticed. It's faint, but it's definitely in the trailer; sound effects are different.

 

Check for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxXGVJSINHk

 

It's best heard when it's going character to character.

 

(They sound much more anime, much less like a fan smacking something, and therefore much better.)

[Ragnarok_F4]

I'm so hyped with this new BB :D . Now begins the cruel waiting game . I'm expecting at least one more char for arcades (Amane, Azrael, Bullet and Izayoi). Can't wait to see some videos :3

[CaliburWarrior]

Bullet's new command grab animation loop.

 

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As a Bullet player. I'm still in the Bullet army. Can't wait to play this game next year.

[00Bubbles00]

I am going to be so old by the time a 3D Blazblue comes out...  I still prefer BBCP's story mode style over GGXRD's though. Maybe it was because of that weird screen layout they used in GGXRD story mode.

 

I am thinking that Mai has a very high chance of being a playable character for CF.  Adding the Remix Heart bit into CPEX could be a way as to warm people up to the character.  I totally did not expect them to include something like that in CPEX.

 

I hope they add more than roughly just one special and one normal for each character this time around, like they did in CP.

[Moy_X7]

They've added Nine, now they just need to add the Imperator (most likely in CF:EX) and I won't give a rat's ass who or what they add to the roster. They've already sunk low enough to add Celica as a playable character, how much worse could it get? The new dudes look pretty cool though, specially Hibiki with the teleports/after-images. Bitches love teleports. 

[Red Kinikacha]

Loving the new additions. My only hope is that alot more characters get the Noel treatment. It would be nice for them to create more costumes for more characters since we're not getting a change in art style. 

Ragna could have a Jacket-less alt. Makoto could get her orange in black jacket to cover up that glorious under boob. Maybe even dress up Arakune in a condom.

[Mattro]

I like Carl's new lunge move he's getting

 

 

And the more I see Hibiki in this trailer the more i want to try him out, he looks like a fun guy to use. Hes really fast.

 

[Asdf]

I am going to be so old by the time a 3D Blazblue comes out... 

Are you saying you want 3D models? BlazBlue is better with sprites. Any 2D fighting game is better with sprites.

[TagerTime]

Loving the new additions. My only hope is that alot more characters get the Noel treatment. It would be nice for them to create more costumes for more characters since we're not getting a change in art style. 

Ragna could have a Jacket-less alt. Makoto could get her orange in black jacket to cover up that glorious under boob. Maybe even dress up Arakune in a condom.

 

If anyone should have a Jacket-less alt it needs to be Bullet!

[Slaudial]

oh dayyummmnn get HYPE!!!!!
 
A new BB game with the TWO all new characters - Black hair Jin and kind-of-Ragna!
 
holy shit that's almost as revolutionary as the new character "Lambda" they so graciously included in BBCP Extend!

[zephyr07]

Mori still hasn't figured out that he should add Jubei to the game already. Now we have Hibiki (he's a fighter?), Naoto (who?!), and Nine (this is acceptable) being added instead.

just to add, considering cpex revealed hibiki's part of the mutsuki branch that specialises in assassinations, him getting in makes sense.

naoto was one character I did not expect though

[GunBlazer]

oh dayyummmnn get HYPE!!!!!

 

A new BB game with the TWO all new characters - Black hair Jin and kind-of-Ragna!

 

holy shit that's almost as revolutionary as the new character "Lambda" they so graciously included in BBCP Extend!

 

Dude, don't be a dick

[Keychain]

I feel like I'm the only person in the Western audience who was incredibly excited for Celica's inclusion. She's my favorite character in the whole BB Universe (with Mai right behind her) and while I know it's unlikely for her to be fighting, keep in mind that for the majority of the story in CP she didn't have Minerva with her. So of course you wouldn't typically see her fighting, but with Minerva with her I see it as pretty viable. Though it's not entirely the same as Relius and Carl as the two seem perfectly capable of combat on their own, and thus have movesets of their own independent of Nirvana and Ignis. Celica doesn't, which is why they put Celica and Minerva as the same character, and the only moves she has that are not directly from Minerva are very silly things like slipping on her face and wiggling her wrists. 

 

I will be extremely pleased if Mai makes it into this game as well. 

[Dovahkyon]

I feel like I'm the only person in the Western audience who was incredibly excited for Celica's inclusion. She's my favorite character in the whole BB Universe (with Mai right behind her) and while I know it's unlikely for her to be fighting, keep in mind that for the majority of the story in CP she didn't have Minerva with her. So of course you wouldn't typically see her fighting, but with Minerva with her I see it as pretty viable. Though it's not entirely the same as Relius and Carl as the two seem perfectly capable of combat on their own, and thus have movesets of their own independent of Nirvana and Ignis. Celica doesn't, which is why they put Celica and Minerva as the same character, and the only moves she has that are not directly from Minerva are very silly things like slipping on her face and wiggling her wrists. 

 

I will be extremely pleased if Mai makes it into this game as well. 

I won't lie I did find her annoying being way to nice to the point of stupidity and the unfunny bad at directions jokes,but if you look closely into her character you will find that she's clearly touched in the head.  Mai's cool tho

[TAI-X]

Blazblue costumes in PSO2.

 

Ragna: "DUUURRRRPPPPP."

 

[Skye]

Dude, don't be a dick

I guess some people want more than brand new sprite work for 3 new characters, new moves, new stages, new balance, etc. I also guess BB isn't the game some people should be playing then.

[Dreiko]

Hibiki both looks and acts nothing like Jin though. Is it cause the uniform is similar or what exactly? He seems to have attack on titan style dual blades and afterimages and stuff...

 

 

 

I feel like I'm the only person in the Western audience who was incredibly excited for Celica's inclusion. She's my favorite character in the whole BB Universe (with Mai right behind her) and while I know it's unlikely for her to be fighting, keep in mind that for the majority of the story in CP she didn't have Minerva with her. So of course you wouldn't typically see her fighting, but with Minerva with her I see it as pretty viable. Though it's not entirely the same as Relius and Carl as the two seem perfectly capable of combat on their own, and thus have movesets of their own independent of Nirvana and Ignis. Celica doesn't, which is why they put Celica and Minerva as the same character, and the only moves she has that are not directly from Minerva are very silly things like slipping on her face and wiggling her wrists. 

 

I will be extremely pleased if Mai makes it into this game as well. 

As a fan of Bururaji I was happy to see her. She was really cool in the radio show and I liked her in the novels and whatnot. Same with Mai, her VA came on the show recently and asked to be playable, they brainstormed she'd have a genderbender Drive and her 5A would be her chest growing out of nowhere and hitting you over and over lol. You know the VA is cool when that's what they imagine.