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Rachel Vs. Jin

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Rachel :RA: Vs. Jin :JI: 

Discuss the BBCPEX Rachel Vs. Jin match up here.
 

What Jin can do and should be aware of:
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What Rachel can do and should be aware of:
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Wasn't sure how to move posts so I'm quoting for the older CPEX Rachel Vs. Jin thread posts/information :)

Anyone have tips on where the gaps in Jin's corner pressure are?

Not many places. 2a 6b can be mashed out if you ib 2a. Anything into 6d, at the proper range you can 5b or even 6b if you in the prior move and act immediately. Can probably backdash 6c if you ib prior attack... Pretty much every other option has the ability to go into a safe frame trap. Need counter assault, OD raid, or if you get knocked down wind tech is decent against him, not much he can do outside the corner. Pretty much have to wait for 236a, or a jump-in (6a sort of preemptively against jumpins), or something unsafe for the sake of mixing it up. Barrier higher level moves like 2b, 5c and 2c and 6c, be careful of 5b TRM setups (try not to OS barrier 5b), watch his meter for the overhead... More or less create enough space to quickly escape or wait for him to mess up. Definitely try not to be pressured in this match whenever you can avoid it but be careful in the neutral as well.

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I like the idea of using match videos and discussing what went on for framework, so I'm going to try that here.

Dash break helps a lot in this match up. If you lay down George and approach, then Jin will likely try to do something about it whether attack to try to kill George or throw an ice sword hoping it'll hit you and make George go away. You can also do things like duck air ice swords to make sure you keep your summons.

It's dangerous to be reckless when approaching even with back up.

Jin's pressure revolves around frame traps, but IB can help you out. See the point 11:23 in the match where Jin does 2C > 6C > 6B and the Rachel player right away 5As the 6B. His throw game is also good so be aware of TRM attempts.

In general don't get too greedy with your summons because Jin will try to take them out by throwing an ice sword. It's probably not really safe to attempt more than two things at a time unless you're confident he won't try anything.

5C is a really good move and can also mess you up. Be careful if you're in 5C range.

13:50 Jin gets out of Rachel's oki by intentionally not teching. In this situation it was probably best to end at the 4B instead of going for 5CC which allowed him to air tech.

A predictive Tempest Dahlia can hit him out of throwing an ice sword and provide a potential advantage, but also be aware if he has 50 meter because he can also potentially call you out with the ice wave super.

And as usual make sure you do DP safe oki (is whiff 2A meaty pumpkin safe against C DP?). It seems like making sure you're out of C DP range is best so even if he has meter he'll be SOL. Of course keep in mind D DP and Counter Assault.

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