iCauseKarma Report post Posted April 12, 2016 Hey guys I have been having some trouble with the timing on the Mist Stance Dash Treasure Hunter. I get it every now and then but it's been trouble doing it on pad. I tried doing 63214[K]66[P], but I either get the dash alone or the super without the dash. Are their any other tips that have been helping you guys out? I'v gotten most of Johnny's other optimal combos down packed including the LV 3 throw jump loop Karinchu does so adding Mist Stance Treasure Hunter would greatly improve my game. Thanks guys! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nov Ganon Report post Posted April 12, 2016 Hey is it possible for someone to give me the notations for the lvl 3 mist finer cancel loops in the corner after a grab? And can anyone give me some lvl 3 mist finer combos in the corner ? Thanks in advance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett_ Report post Posted April 12, 2016 3 hours ago, iCauseKarma said: Hey guys I have been having some trouble with the timing on the Mist Stance Dash Treasure Hunter. I get it every now and then but it's been trouble doing it on pad. I tried doing 63214[K]66[P], but I either get the dash alone or the super without the dash. Are their any other tips that have been helping you guys out? I'v gotten most of Johnny's other optimal combos down packed including the LV 3 throw jump loop Karinchu does so adding Mist Stance Treasure Hunter would greatly improve my game. Thanks guys! As mentioned on the wiki ( http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=GGXRD-R/Johnny/Combos#How_To_Do_Mist_Stance_Dash_Treasure_Hunt ), the main thing for Dash Treasure Hunt consistency is delaying the buffer on the input. It's better to do it very late so that it drops from the previous hit, and then improve your timing from there. If you're talking about just raw dash TH, rather than from something like 6H, just do it faster. Chances are you're just doing it too slowly. 24 minutes ago, Nov Ganon said: Hey is it possible for someone to give me the notations for the lvl 3 mist finer cancel loops in the corner after a grab? And can anyone give me some lvl 3 mist finer combos in the corner ? Thanks in advance They've been added to the Combo section of the wiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iCauseKarma Report post Posted April 12, 2016 @brett_ Thank you man, MUCH appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KingSolomun Report post Posted April 13, 2016 Update to the Valiant Dust Combos Been working on this dust corner combo for Johnny, you need lvl 2 to pull it off. From slightly past mid screen or corner: 5D>6>5HS>5HS>2HS>MC>J.D (land) J.D >MC>J.S> (jc)> J.D> J.D> Zweihander. Sol: 164 Damage Ky: 164 Damage (can't otg with 2.k > coin to get LVL>3 MF) Ram: 172 Damage Elphelt: 166 Damage Sin: 170 Damage Chipp: 211 Damage Millia: 198 Damage I-NO: 172 Damage Slayer: 156 Damage Faust: 190 Damage (Requires an entirely different combo, 5.D>6>6HS>2.K>6HS>MC>5K>f.S>6HS>LVL2 MID>Dash x 1>6HS>Coin>LVL2 HIGH>Dash x 1>Jump>j.K>j.S>j.D>Zweihander Bedman: 151 Damage Jack-O: 166 Damage Jam: 164 Damage (Do only one j.D before Zweihander to end the combo) Venom: 166 Damage Axl: 172 Damage May: 172 Damage Zato 1: 177 Damage Potemkin: 169 Damage (Requires the same route as Faust) Leo: 194 Damage (Same route as Pot and Faust with some small changes, 5.D>6>6HS>2.K>6HS>MC>f.s>6HS>LVL2 MID> Dash x 1>6HS>Coin>LVL2 HIGH>j.K>j.D>Zweihander) (Can't otg 2.k>coin at end of combo) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerwatt Report post Posted April 16, 2016 In some of Karnichu's blockstrings, I notice he does 2H and then immediately goes into j.K. How does that work? I can't seem to get Johnny to go into any air move after 2H. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freelander Report post Posted April 16, 2016 he mist cancels it, I guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigBowsa Report post Posted April 17, 2016 yep! thanks to air mist cancel you can do stuff like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dandy Chippu Report post Posted April 18, 2016 I finally got my hands on the demo yesterday and I have fallen in love with this character, he's is so much freaking fun, but this execution is killing me. I have a brand new respect for Karinchu now I've tried him myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivanchu77 Report post Posted April 21, 2016 GGXrdR 4/20/16 - Karinchu (Johnny) Matches VS Axl, JUN (Millia), Gaku (Sin), Chappu (Chipp), Ain (Ky) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerwatt Report post Posted April 22, 2016 On 4/21/2016 at 8:36 AM, ivanchu77 said: GGXrdR 4/20/16 - Karinchu (Johnny) Matches VS Axl, JUN (Millia), Gaku (Sin), Chappu (Chipp), Ain (Ky) Can someone explain how guys like Karinchu and others are able to get so godike in this game without training mode in a home console release? How does he get those amazing setups? His ability to improvise combos is also awe-inspiring. And all on an arcade. Amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLSTRM Report post Posted April 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, Killerwatt said: Can someone explain how guys like Karinchu and others are able to get so godike in this game without training mode in a home console release? How does he get those amazing setups? His ability to improvise combos is also awe-inspiring. And all on an arcade. Amazing. Arcade also has a training mode, it's just time limited like any other mode is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett_ Report post Posted April 23, 2016 Yeah, trust me, they training mode, hahaha. That set Killerwatt posted is very insightful. His play VS Sin and Chipp were both very interesting. Also vs AXL, since I had heard it might be tough for Axl since LV2 can punish Rensen on block, it was interesting to see when and how that actually played a factor (IIRC Karinchu only got the punish once, but you could tell when he was thinking about it). Also 5K to deal with sparrowhawk haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chewie891 Report post Posted April 23, 2016 Just wanted to post this a little combo off of yrc zweihander. I havent tested on other characters yet. Just to put it out there i am a new johnny player learning as i go. Any advice would be appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SynikaL Report post Posted April 23, 2016 On 4/21/2016 at 8:36 AM, ivanchu77 said: GGXrdR 4/20/16 - Karinchu (Johnny) Matches VS Axl, JUN (Millia), Gaku (Sin), Chappu (Chipp), Ain (Ky) *sigh* Has anyone been able to get the Millia combo at 7:02 to work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killerwatt Report post Posted April 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, SynikaL said: *sigh* Has anyone been able to get the Millia combo at 7:02 to work? I've been at it for days and I can't get most of these combos I'm seeing to work, especially the throw comobs on Chipp that he does. Most times for me the dummy is able to tech out before I can land the High MF lvl2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SynikaL Report post Posted April 23, 2016 Well, that's discouraging. I'm having the same issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star Report post Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, SynikaL said: *sigh* Has anyone been able to get the Millia combo at 7:02 to work? What part of the Millia combo isn't working for you? If the Zwei isn't landing at the end you probably just need to adjust when you jump out of the dash. 1 hour ago, Killerwatt said: I've been at it for days and I can't get most of these combos I'm seeing to work, especially the throw comobs on Chipp that he does. Most times for me the dummy is able to tech out before I can land the High MF lvl2. The Chipp throw combo is difficult. Make sure you are doing Throw>Coin>Dash jump cancel j.D>air High MF lvl2. If you just do j.D>Air High MF lvl2 then most of the time the Mist finer will miss and even if it connects Chipp will be too low on the bounce back and the coin will just OTG Chipp. The rest is just timing the coin, dash, coin, 5P Zwei. But I find I hit the first coin too early and then Chipp is too high for after the second coin to land 5P Zwei. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SynikaL Report post Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Red Star said: What part of the Millia combo isn't working for you? If the Zwei isn't landing at the end you probably just need to adjust when you jump out of the dash. The Chipp throw combo is difficult. Make sure you are doing Throw>Coin>Dash jump cancel j.D>air High MF lvl2. If you just do j.D>Air High MF lvl2 then most of the time the Mist finer will miss and even if it connects Chipp will be too low on the bounce back and the coin will just OTG Chipp. The rest is just timing the coin, dash, coin, 5P Zwei. But I find I hit the first coin too early and then Chipp is too high for after the second coin to land 5P Zwei. Could you do me a favor and just type out the notation for the combo? I'm thinking I may have just notated it incorrectly. Anyone got any tips on LvL 2/3 MC Air Dash? It's just inconsistent for me and I can tell what's causing me to drop it. j.k/j.p isn't an issue but the AD seems random. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Star Report post Posted April 24, 2016 1 hour ago, SynikaL said: Could you do me a favor and just type out the notation for the combo? I'm thinking I may have just notated it incorrectly. Anyone got any tips on LvL 2/3 MC Air Dash? It's just inconsistent for me and I can tell what's causing me to drop it. j.k/j.p isn't an issue but the AD seems random. CH 6K>delay>c.S>Coin>5P>High MF lvl 2>Coin>Dash Jump>j.P>j.K>j.S>dj.K>j.S>j.D>Zwei. Depending on screen position I found doing j.K after the dash jump to be more reliable as j.P puts her too high. if it looks like she is too high then I go dj.K>j.D>Zwei. Seems like it work everywhere except Millia in the corner, but there are better combos there anyways. And I liked brett's advice on airdash after mist cancel. It has worked the best for me On 4/6/2016 at 3:22 AM, brett_ said: At LV2, 2H > AMC > Airdash is mainly dependant on your height. You need to make sure you're mist cancelling when he's at the apex, any lower and you just simply can't airdash. The method I recommend that has helped me get consistent with it is to input the first 6 of the airdash at the same, or slightly later timing than the H you press for your mist cancel. So, 2H > 214[P/K/S] > 6+H > 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kymaera K1ng Report post Posted April 26, 2016 How does the mist level work exactly? I don't understand this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theone_truestyle Report post Posted April 26, 2016 3 hours ago, Kymaera K1ng said: How does the mist level work exactly? I don't understand this... If coin hits mist finer goes up a lvl. Level3 is max. The damage properties(lvl2&up wallbounce)and range change depending apon the level also gives mist cancel more frame advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chewie891 Report post Posted April 28, 2016 On 4/26/2016 at 8:11 PM, Kymaera K1ng said: How does the mist level work exactly? I don't understand this... you can also combo coin into mistfiner as well. It takes time to get used to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ivanchu77 Report post Posted April 30, 2016 GGXrdR 4/30/16 - Omito (Johnny) Matches VS SPIKE (Slayer), Ky, Leo, U-Zen (I-No), Kakkou (Ramlethal) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurantar Report post Posted May 5, 2016 I have been trying to do the midscreen combo from starting position into level 2 high mist finer, coin, dash jump air combo (jpks djksd zweihander). This is on Sol. Sometimes the zweihander hits twice which prevents the hard knockdown but sometimes it works correctly and only hits once. What determines if the move hits twice. Does that mean I am too close? What can I change in the combo to make sure that it only hits once ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites