oOFrostByteOo Report post Posted November 26, 2015 Looks like Terumis' Serpents Cursed sting now drains Hakumens Magatama @1:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO7paGHmVyY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted November 27, 2015 So his average damage (particularly in the corner) has been increased and is doing about 3.5k-4k now, his OD damage was only slightly nerfed, but still does pretty fucking high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted November 27, 2015 That actually sounds better than CPEX, if his average damage is better. Those Renka combos look so hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted November 27, 2015 Yea, his average damage throughout CP was pretty low, more than likely to compensate for the fact that his max damage was absurd, it seems like they reversed it where his average damage is higher, but his max damage is lower. To be honest, I prefer doing more average damage overall than doing piss damage and only getting some good by hoarding my resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schneider-X Report post Posted November 27, 2015 On 11/25/2015, 9:24:00, oOFrostByteOo said: Looks like Terumis' Serpents Cursed sting now drains Hakumens Magatama @1:36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO7paGHmVyY It always did that during OD in CP. Also I'm surprised how 6B has a noticeable impact in some combos. Will be interesting to see how we can incorporate it so we get the bonus poration as early as possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted November 27, 2015 It never stole Hakumen's meter actually in CP, at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schneider-X Report post Posted November 28, 2015 36 minutes ago, BlackYakuzu94 said: It never stole Hakumen's meter actually in CP, at all. Are you thinking about the non-OD version? The OD version steals meter but the regular version doesn't. I tested it out in training mode and a match and it both steals meter during OD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted November 28, 2015 It must've been something from 1.1 then, because I remember there was a point when it didn't steal Hakumen's meter at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shin ATproof Report post Posted November 29, 2015 Renka can catch people in the air now. I managed to hit jumping opponents with it and then get a full combo. Anti-air 2C is kinda awkward to hit since it's honestly the first time I've used it for that purpose but it's pretty nice once you get a feel for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted November 30, 2015 2C has always been kind of a hard-read type of Anti-Air, so getting used to it being an official one might be daunting at first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted November 30, 2015 And whiffing it will still be painful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oOFrostByteOo Report post Posted November 30, 2015 Anyone know if 6D can combo from corner catch (wall bounce?). Also are D catches still special cancellable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted December 2, 2015 Some Hakumen info and combos from Cameila https://www.evernote.com/shard/s647/sh/9bc1107d-8316-4370-a57a-e535fad7ccbc/ebd300f1b4cdae82196e16222cbc226d We really need somebody to translate these evernotes, did anyone ever do the first two posted in this topic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_undercover_beret Report post Posted December 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOrFLUI0rWM&feature=youtu.be http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27776022 New combo video from Nikki, it focuses on OD combos. At 5:23, there are some troll Mugen combos. Notations for the combos: Spoiler All of the following combos are done with 8 magatama and ~10% life OD. 1) (Corner) B+C > 623A > 6C(lv2) > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 6A > 6B > 5A > 236B > 6C > 632146C > 41236C(1) > EA (5487) 2) (Corner) B+C > 623A > 6C(lv2) > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 6A > 6B > 5A > 236B > 8jc(?) > AD J.2A > J.C > 5C > 5C > 632146C > 623A > 5C > 3C (5508) 3) (Corner) B+C > 623A > 6C(lv2) > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 5C > 236B > 7jc > AD J.2A > J.C > 5C > 5C > 632146C > 41236C(1) > EA (5685) 4) (Midscreen) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > 66 > 236B > 7jc > AD > J.B > J.2A > 5C > CT > 5C > EA (4665) 5) (Midscreen) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > 66 > 236B > 9jc > J.2C > 5A > 5B > J.B > J.214C > 5C > EA (4810) 6) (Midscreen) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > 66 > 236B > 7jc > AD > J.B > J.2A > 5C > CT > 5C > 632146C (5141) 7) (Midscreen) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > 66 > 6A > 6B > 5A > 5B > J.B > J.214C > 5C > 632146C (5687) 8) (Back to Corner) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 6A > 6B > 5A > 5B > J.B > J.214B > AD J.C > 5C > 5C > 632146C (6570) 9) (Back to Corner) 4B+C RC > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 6A > 6B > 5A > 236B > AD J.2A > J.C > 5C > 5C > 632146C (6603) 10) (Midscreen) 41236C(1) > 623A > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 5C > EA (5323) 11) (Midscreen) 41236C(1) > 623A > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 5C > 623AA > CT > 5C > EA (5988) 12) (Midscreen) 41236C(1) > 623A > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 2B > 214A > IAD J.B > J.2A > 5C > 5C > 632146C (6701) 13) (Corner) 41236C(1) > 623A > 6C(lv2) > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 6A > 6B > 5A > 236B > 6C > 632146C > 623A > 5C > EA (7889) 14) (Corner) 41236C(1) > 623A > 6C(lv2) > 5C > ODc > TK J.214C > 5C > 214A > 6A > 6B > 5A > 236B > 6C > 632146C > 623A > 5C > 3C (8226) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Isuna Report post Posted December 17, 2015 On 12/2/2015, 11:50:43, BlackYakuzu94 said: Some Hakumen info and combos from Cameila https://www.evernote.com/shard/s647/sh/9bc1107d-8316-4370-a57a-e535fad7ccbc/ebd300f1b4cdae82196e16222cbc226d We really need somebody to translate these evernotes, did anyone ever do the first two posted in this topic? The Q&A "I want to find the optimal routes with the stuff we have now, so I thought I would talk about Renka's this and that. So please note that I'm not saying 'this is the best way'. Q: So... what is the optimal routes for Renka combos? A: If you want meter gain and damage 6A>6B is the way, if you want damage and corner carry go for low air dash J2C combo, and if you want anti-burst you go for forward jump into holding 4 into falling JB or similar. Q: 6B>2B is hard... A: Indeed. But that route is not a must at the moment, so feel free to skip. If you are going to learn, practice height adjustment and delays. It feels a little bit harder than the Bunt Loop [?] (J2C>2C pickup) from the original CP. The height you should use the 2B to pick up is quite easy to grasp. If 6B hits to low you can still hit with 5A, so if you miss go with that. But, for the time being I think the safe J2C 2B is better than risking missing 6A>6B>2B. Q: What do you do at ranges where Renkas second hit whiffs? A: Confirm and something like Guren or Emma. If you only hit with the first hit, even 5A won't catch. However, if you get a counterhit you should have more time and options. When I know more I will write it down. Q: Are any of these character specific combos? A: I haven't been able to check all of them yet. If I'm going to make an excuse, I can't find the time to both play other players and researching... Help would be appreciated. Q: I know a better combo, you know? A: Please teach me (shaking voice)." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spark Report post Posted December 17, 2015 So it looks like there was a patch to fix a Hakumen bug? Something having invincibility when it shouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted December 17, 2015 The only thing I can see them fixing is the hilarious Shippu bug, because there is no reason that move needed the amount of the invulnerability it had. Isuna, also thank you for translating appreciate it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 So 5C seems to force crouching now on hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted December 18, 2015 Is that good? I don't think Haku's ever had any crouch only combos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_undercover_beret Report post Posted December 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, mAc Chaos said: Is that good? I don't think Haku's ever had any crouch only combos. He had actually. In CPE, there is J.B/J.2C > 5C > Zantetsu. It saves the magatama commonly used for Guren. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted December 18, 2015 There's also raw 5C>Zantetsu , which you'd need Guren or Renka to follow up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spark Report post Posted December 18, 2015 5C > 214A > 2C might work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schneider-X Report post Posted December 18, 2015 4 hours ago, Spark said: 5C > 214A > 2C might work. I think I saw that work in a combo video somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_undercover_beret Report post Posted December 19, 2015 14 hours ago, Schneider-X said: I think I saw that work in a combo video somewhere. It was probably this one: https://youtu.be/HOuQgQsdfU0?t=31 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_undercover_beret Report post Posted January 10, 2016 https://www.evernote.com/shard/s647/sh/1e708e17-e693-4991-8102-50a9cb136f54/8a13af86444c17e1d765a7d96845ffbc BBCF Haku-men evernote posted by Camelia 3 days ago on his twitter. It seems to include basic information and some combo routes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites