stunedge Report post Posted September 26, 2009 ATTENTION EVERYONE. DO NOT POST ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD OTHER THAN POTENTIAL CHANGES/NEW THINGS THAT YOU FOUND FROM OTHERS/DISCOVERED FROM BEING THERE. PLEASE TAKE ALL THOUGHTS AND DISCUSSION TO THE GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD UPDATED 10/10-12 3rd LOKETEST INFO PLEASE READ THROUGH THIS POST AND THE BELOW POSTS BEFORE YOU POST SOMETHING TO AVOID POSTING DUPLICATED INFORMATION +++FOR THOSE WHO CAN WRITE IN JAPANESE+++ Survey on the official BLAZBLUE site is: http://my.formman.com/form/pc/RqpdwmVZLb736fox/ send your thought, suggestion for future changes This is the thread for summarizing changes Note: Some of the information posted here are not certain and can be WRONG ================================================ ================================================ Ragna A - 2A - 6A - JA - B - 6B - Damage nerfed for the follow-up combo 2B - JB - C - shorter and faster, similar to Sol's far S 6C - 2C - shorter and faster, hard to combo after counter hit, new route of 2C>6C is added 3C - JC - D - 2nd hit breaks 1 Guard Primer during BK 6D - 2D - breaks 1 Guard Primer during BK JD - becomes smaller during BK 214A(HF) - During BK 2nd hit breaks 1 Guard Primer, harder to combo after counter hit 214B(GH) - damage nerfed for the follow-up combo 623C/D(ID) - command of knee attack follow up is now 214D 214D(DS) - breaks 1 guard primer, bigger hitbox in horizontal direction 22C - damage is fixed to 400 J214C - New move Belial Edge. Not an overhead, can be used during the combo and for relaunching, does not get advantage frames on block 632146D(CS) - still doesn't go through projectiles, 2nd hit breaks guard primer by 1 214214D(BK) - 214214D during BK - AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - no changes made to jump cancelable moves, all guard break moves penetrate the barrier Jin A - 2A - 6A - JA - JA>JC combos, slower B - in 3rd loketest, 5B has changed back to CT one, added new link of 5B>2B 6B - bit faster, opponent gets longer stun recovery when hit, easier to combo 2B - cannot link to 5B afterward, faster and lasts shorter JB - slightly slower(become faster in the 3rd loketest), C>JB does not combo against everybody except Tager, does not work as overhead from the ground against Tager, longer range in the vertical direction and lasts longer, easier to do cross-up C - much faster and less recovery time 6C - hitbox shrinked, 3C>2B>5C>6C did not work against some characters 2C - cannot jump cancel on block 3C - JC - new move which looks like 214D's second hit, JC(CH)>land>2D combos, can link into J2C J2C - old JC, J2C>JC works, slower than old JC but has bigger hitbox in the horizontal direction D - slower, can be only canceled by dash cancel, no change made to dash cancel 6D - faster, freeze time is shortened 2D - faster JD - faster 236A - faster 236B - 236C - shoots out 2 projectile (similar to 236A and 236B) at the same time 236D - first hit breaks 1 guard primer J236A - able to jump before landing (similar to #R, slash Ky's air stunedge) J236B - able to jump before landing (similar to #R, slash Ky's air stunedge) J236C - able to jump/dash before landing (similar to #R, slash Ky's air stunedge) J236D - slower, not able to move until landing 623A - breaks 1 guard primer, longer recovery time 623B - breaks 1 guard primer, a bit faster(?) 623C - breaks 1 guard primer, combo after counter hit is very hard due to increase in recovery time 623D - breaks 1 guard primer, damage nerfed for the follow-up combo 214A - damage nerfed for the follow-up combo, recovery time increases 214B - does not get knockdown for the hit on the ground, opponent can tech immediately after for the air version 214C - jump up a bit before the move starts 214D - C x n - 632146C - 632146D - 214214D - new DD, Yukikaze, same as Hakumen's one, 3572 damage AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - opponent bounds back bigger Other - better CG graphics for DPs, supers, freeze effects - air 214A/B/C moves the same distance - All freeze moves will automatically unfreeze at the fastest timing, no more mashing required Noel A - slower, longer recovery time, does not get advantage frames on block, can not mash anymore 2A - 6A - does not hit on character's crouch motion except Hakumen, Tager JA - slower B - hitbox in vertical direction shrinked, does not hit Litchi's crouch motion, able to jump cancel on block 6B - damage nerfed for follow-up combo 2B - JB - C - new motion, can not jump cancel on block 6C - slower, smaller hitbox, easier to tech, second hit breaks 1 guard primer 2C - 3C - bigger damage box JC - slower(?) D - old Chain C motion 6D - faster, low 4D - faster 2D - no more an overhead JD - causes bounce on hit in air J4D - new move, J6D in previous loketests, fast, not an overhead Chain A - old C motion, faster Chain 6A - Chain B - Chain 6B - bigger kickback Chain C - old Chain A, jump cancelable on hit Chain 6C - break guard primer, does not combo from D, easier to hit opponent in the air 236A/B/C - faster, does not get advantage frames on block, longer recovery time, unable to do 236A loop anymore 214A - J236C - 22B - 22C - longer recovery time, combo damage nerfed Chain 236D - Chain 214D - breaks guard primer Chain 623D - old 28D, longer recovery time after landing, hard to combo in the corner, no more invincibility on the start of the move 236236D - command changed J236236D - not able to move until landing, guaranteed punish on block, last hit breaks 2 guard primer AH - Throw - damage nerfed for the follow-up combo Air Throw - slower CA - decrease in the invincibility frames Other - 6C loop is very hard but doable with adding A, new JD loops replaces current combo - chain moves are faster in general Rachel A - 2A - 6A - JA - not an overhead B - 6B - easier to tech after counter hit, existing 6B couterhit combo does not work 4B - a bit faster(?) 2B - JB - C - 6C - damage buffed 2C - 3C - hard to combo after 3C9D JC - easier to tech J2C - J2C can not link to other normals on block , J2C can be only canceled by 2C or special move after landing, more knockback on hit, Lv.1 version breaks 1 guard primer, Lv.2 and Lv.3 breaks 2 guard primer D - wind doesnt immediately recover after consumption, wind recovery speed gets faster and faster, recovery speed will be reset once wind is consumed (similar to how Order-Sol's charge work), wind does not recover during the knockdown 236A - seed disappears if Rachel takes hit during the motion 236B - seed disappears if Rachel takes hit during the motion, longer recovery time 236C - seed disappears if Rachel takes hit during the motion longer recovery time 214C - new command for Sword Iris, also has a mid-air version 214A - frog combo works in 2nd loketest, can not summon new frog immediately after old one, new frog meter tells you the recharge time of the frog, frog walks very slow, frog is also affected by the wind now 214B - disappears when Rachel gets hit even after the pumpkin is activated, less hit stun when get hit by the pumpkin, can be moved by wind for more than 3 times, air version starts up slower 632146C - damage nerfed, breaks 1 guard primer Tempest Dahlia(テンペスト・ダリア) - new DD, use 1 wind, will change depends on the number of wind left, summons Huge Frog when there's 4 winds left and it breaks 1 guard primer AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - Tager A - can link to B or 2B 2A - B>3C, B>4D, 2A>4D 6A - JA - B - 6B - 4B - 2B - JB - C - faster, entire motion is much shorter 6C - breaks 1 guard primer 2C - 3C - pulls opponent back JC - J2C - breaks 1 guard primer D - has guard point and doesn't hit opponent far away, able to combo after it 6D - 4D - fast, hit opponent far back on counter hit 2D - faster, hits lower JD - A Driver - 2700 damage, able to link to Gadget finger B Driver - 3600 damage A Sledge - Sledge loop remains, up to 2loops, follow up move breaks 1 guard primer B Sledge - harder to use during combo (easier to tech), follow up move breaks 1 guard primer Atomic Collider - has invincibility against Head attribute move but not during the attraction Spark Volt - damage nerfed for the follow-up combo (2700~), slower Charge - Takes about 23sec to fill up automatically, charge move can charge up 1/3 of meter max for the time Gadget Finger - new move, 22D, works similar to Ragna's 22C, does not do damage and pulls opponent up, gets 1-2 advantage frames Magnetic Wheel - 2600 damage, breaks 1 guard primer Tera Break - only does 4000 damage including wheel GETB - AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - Magnetized property lasts shorter (lasts around 3sec) - walk faster, jump faster Taokaka A - can only mash up to 2 times 2A - 6A - JA - B - B(CH)>B does not combo, B(CH)>6C does not combo, Attack level decreased 6B - 2B - JB - faster C - C(CH)>6C does not combo, attack level decreased 6C - slower 2C - 2C(CH)>6C does not combo 3C - JC - hits higher D - 6D - 2D - JD - J2D - J2DB gets advantage frames on block 236A - 236B - motion changed to only hit in the horizontal direction, last hit in the motion does 1500 damage 236C - faster(?), breaks 1 guard primer 214A/B/C - less recovery time, some projectiles break guard primer 214D - J214D - 22C - breaks 1 guard primer, does a lot of guard damage on block 2charge8D - 236236D - last hit breaks 2 guard primer 214214C - 236236B - AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - CD loop and taunt combo remains - D moves have longer recovery time after landing Litchi A - 2A - 6A - JA - B - 6B - can combo into 6C 2B - JB - C - 6C - able to cancel both hit with special moves 2C - 3C - JC - Stick A - links to B Stick 2A - links to B Stick 6A - both hand and stick have hitbox Stick JA - Stick B - Stick 6B - Stick 2B - Stick JB - Stick C - Stick 6C - Stick 2C - Stick 3C - existing 3C>release D combo does not work, special cancelable but lost its manten return state Stick JC - D - 6D - new motion, 2hit forward movement attack, can be linked from C, punish guaranteed on block, can connect to B on hit, force standing property on hit, can cancel into special moves, first hit breaks 1 guard primer 4D - new motion, jump kick, overhead, able to cancel into specials 2D - JD - cause slide down J2D - Stick 41236D>A - Stick 41236D>B - second hit will combo even if the first hit is on normal hit Stick 41236D>C - harder to combo afterwards 623D/421D - 41236D - moves longer distance 236A - 236B - 236C - 63214A - 63214B - 63214C - Tsubame Gaeshi - easier to tech, can not end the regular combo with DP setup, hard to combo with 6C, not RCable, breaks 1 guard primer, longer recovery time Great Wheel - last hit breaks 1 guard primer 13 orphans - damage nerfed, full hit only does 1100~, first hit breaks 1 guard primer All green - starts up slower, breaks 1 guard primer AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - no change to glide throw Arakune A - A>6B - A>6B>JD combos from the ground hit 2A - 6A - JA - B - 6B - 2B - hitbox nerfed, does not work as an anti-air JB - C - 6C - first hit breaks 1 guard primer 2C - breaks 1 guard primer 3C - breaks 1 guard primer(?) JC - J6A/B/C - hitbox nerfed J2A/B/C - slow, no more an overhead move, can only cancel to other dive move on hit(which means dive cancel is possible only when first dive hits), not able to cancel to back dash & forward dash after landing, not able to combo into B without dive cancel, guaranteed punish on block for A dive and B dive, a bit faster in the 3rd loketest D - gets back about 20% of curse meter 6D - gets back about 35% of curse meter 2D - gets back about 25% of curse meter, longer recovery time, does not work as corner trap anymore JD - gets back about 20% of curse meter, not an low anymore, slower and longer recovery time, disappears if Arakune takes hit during the motion J2D - JD in straight vertical direction A bug - huge, almost same as the old A bug, bounds once on the ground and then disappear B bug - fast, does 3hit and has knockdown property C bug - has big mouth and bites the opponent, the one on the screenshot of famitsu, position, hit effect is same as the old C bug, very long hitstop D bug - butterfly, moves similar to old D bug, air unblockable when flying up, untechable, breaks 1 guard primer J236C - breaks 1 guard primer J236D - fog does not have a hitbox and damage anymore(similar to Johnny's fog), thus it will not be absorbed or eliminated, gets back about 40% of curse meter, the touch box of fog itself shrinked 236B - 214A - 214B - 214C - J214214D - gets back 100% of curse meter 236236C - damage buffed(?) AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - all bugs can be only summoned during CURSE mode - when curse meter gets full it goes to CURSE mode - You cannot recurse opponent in the CURSE mode - bugs are huge but slow, can not re-summon the bug one after another - once the curse mode starts it wont go away even if Arakune takes hit - different D moves get back different portion of curse meter, if opponent blocks these move the amount of meter gets back will also decrease - YOU CANT GUARD BREAK with bees - fast and short back step, no change to forward step - A/B/C bugs can be blocked in the air - Somebody already found 5000+damage combo - all bugs are slightly faster in 3rd loketest - jump slower - CURSE mode lasts about 16secs Bang A - hits all characters' crouch motion 2A - able to link to 2A 6A - JA - B - 6B - 2B - JB - J4B - old J4C motion C - 6C - 6C combo works on more characters, longer range 2C - easier to combo after 2C (decrease in the combo time point), much less disadvantage frames on block 3C - not able to jump cancel (previous info was wrong) JC - old 6C motion, unlike normal 6C it is not possible to combo JD after J2C - old JC motion D - faster, Guard point lasts longer, not able to jump cancel on block 6D - faster, breaks one guard primer, not able to jump cancel on block 2D - faster, not able to jump cancel on block JD - hits lower, faster 623B - longer untechable time, breaks 1 guard primer J623B - longer untechable time 623C - J623C - J236A - poison does more damage, not able to shoot nails during dash in FuRinKazan J236B - retains momentum of previous motion like current A nail J236C - J236D - 214A/B/C/D - 632146B - old 214214B move (umbrella), does not disappear once activated even if Bang takes hit 2363214C - 236236D - new DD, Bang AshuraMusouKen, 2530 damage, anti-air move, throw FuRinKaZan - uses 50% meter in 3rd loketest, comes with consumer version song, command changed to 632146 AH - only possible during FuRinKaZan Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - number of nails did not change - 4 seals combo is slightly harder in 3rd loketest - teleport move after D guard point can activate another teleport - all D moves can not be jump canceled on block, punish guaranteed Carl A - able to link to 2A, up to 2 loops 2A - 6A - JA - B - not able to jump cancel on block 6B - 2B - JB - more hit box in vertical direction, hit opponent far back on CH C - 6C - 2C - easier to tech 3C - JC - jump cancelable J2C - not an overhead, speed decreases D - 6D - existing 6D loop can be done up to 2 loops 2D - breaks 1 guard primer 4D - 3D - 8D - JD - 236A - 236B - longer recovery time 623C - bigger hitbox in the front, able to RC the 1st hit J214C - 214C cancel remains Volante - new move, nirvana shoots out the projectile, fast, unlimited range, lasts even Carl blocks opponent's moves 41236D - 63214D - untechable, bounce up in the vertical direction 623D - able to block with air barrier, armor property of nirvana takes up to 2 hits 236236D - 1st hit breaks 1 guard primer 214214D - breaks 2 guard primers AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - forward step has longer recovery time - forward step can be canceled by J214C - all D moves use a lot of nirvana meter - recovery speed of nirvana after broken is same as current version - recovery speed when stopping nirvana is very fast - current air throw loop does not work, similar one can be done using different way, but not able to do 100% combo - nirvana will stop if opponent does throw break - no change to glide throw Hakumen A - able to cancel into D moves 2A - able to cancel into D moves 6A - slower, able to cancel into D moves, moves forward during the motion, gets advantage frames on block, harder to use as anti-air, unable to cancel with specials JA - J2A - old J2C, slower B - hits on most characters' crouch motion, able to cancel into D moves 6B - slower, becomes 2hits move, 1st hit is an overhead, able to cancel into D moves, not RCable, unable to do further combo after hit 2B - able to cancel into D moves JB - C - faster 4C - thrust move, fast, long range, not cancelable 6C - faster, breaks 1 guard primer 2C - 3C - JC - new motion looks like Jin's 214D's second hit, same as Jin's new JC, longer recovery time compared to previous loketests J2C - old JC D - 6D - 2D - JD - not able to tech after hit Guren - command changed to 214A 623A - 623A>A - 41236C - 1st hit breaks 1 guard primer, easier to react due to the new effect, cannot combo into 5C after J214B - J214C - longer knockdown time 632146C - breaks 2 guard primer 236236D - also takes low moves AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - Other - added new barrier move against projectiles - barrier appears when Hakumen cuts the projectile (blackhole with 封="Seal" kanji) - barrier absorbs the projectile and gets bigger - barrier will last for a certain time and will disappear if opponent gets hit by it Λ-No.11- A - 2A - 6A - JA - B - 6B - 2B - JB - slower C - does not change the direction automatically 6C - 2C - slower, combo damage nerfed 3C - slower, last hit lifts up opponent a bit, range shortened JC - J2C - D - slightly slower, second hit does not cause special hit status, can only combo into 4D on crouch hit 6D - much longer recovery time 4D - not able to jump cancel 2D - JD - J2D - 236D - changes to the move where appears in the certain range and lasts for about 3-4hits 214D - hard to combo after normal hit, charge version breaks 2 guard primer 214A/B/C - added gravity meter, can not use another gravity field until the meter fills up, meter recovers very slow (more than 10sec), opponent floats higher after gravity seed hits, gravity>6A does not work, able to link into 6C on counter hit, has invincibility before the move starts, breaks 1 guard primer J214D - cause the bound on hit, opponent can tech after, J214D>2DD will combo at the fastest timing, slightly slower,exists the min height limit(move can be only used above the certain height) 236A - Act Parser Zwei, moves forward, similar to old Act Parser, longer recovery time on stop, no invincibility, does not go through the opponent 236B - Act Parser Zwei:Blade, forward movement attack, low, can be linked from 3C, 6C, able to link to B in the corner after hit 236C - Act Parser Zwei:Cavalier, forward movement attack, attacks upper direction, air unblockable, able to link to D moves on hit 236236D - 632146D - sword appears in the farther position AH - Throw - Air Throw - CA - slower Other - No more special voice against Ragna - old Act Parser deleted - shorter backdash, less invincibility frames - airdash is slower and shorter TSUBAKI - Drive: Install, charge the meter and uses the charge stock to level up special moves - move very fast, run in the same speed as Noel does - Order-Sol style character - charge with 5D, 2D and JD - JD during airdash will immediately stop the airdash - JD can be only used once during one jump - can stock up to 5 charge stocks - able to charge cancel (similar to Order-Sol's) - charge speed is very fast (at 2nd loketest) - charge meter will go back while not charging (e.g. stopping charge when meter is half full will bring the meter back to the previous state, which means repeating charge cancel does not increase the number of stocks) - using special moves with D button will cost 1 charge stock to perform level-up version of the move (similar to how Jam's special move works) - able to cancel from special moves to other special moves up to 3 times on hit - can also cancel from special moves to the same special moves if the first move used was level-up version - can cancel from level-up special moves to other level-up special moves even if it is on block - one of the DD will use up all the remaining charge stocks, damage will change depend on the number of stocks left - one of the DD works similar to Hakumen's mugen, during the effect time there will be no limit on using level-up moves. HAZAMA - Drive: Ouroboros, Press D to launch Ouroboros, and D again to pull yourself to its location (with a ducking/sliding movement). The maximum Drive Guage is 2, and it recovers over a set time when you're on the ground. - no dash, moves with special ducking step, step can be canceled by other moves and barrier, can not be canceled by jump - in general moves very slow - super moves are in general very good - does not have a long range attack in general - Hazama's voice turns into Terumi when he uses moves which activate Ouroboros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stunedge Report post Posted September 26, 2009 System - Barrier burst is now replaced with Break Burst - You can stock up to 2 bursts - Burst no longer have damage penalty - every character starts with 1 burst stock, character gains an additional burst after losing a round (only once) - Using Burst when hit or block (not regular burst) will consume half of the Guard Primer (e.g Ragna uses the burst will make his current Guard Primer goes down from 4 to 2) - Regular burst automatically becomes Gold Burst, able to kill from the follow up combo - burst during hit or block is Green burst, similar to CT version - When regular gold burst hits opponent, opponent will bounce high and able to combo from there (no more Guard break by gold burst) - Life bar still goes into DANGER if barrier meter is running out - All AH unlocked - You can use AH when you need one more round to win (not the final round of the match) with 100% meter, more than 1 burst left and opponent's life is below 35%, character face picture next to life bar shines in white when it is possible to activate AH - Guard Primer(? ガードプライマー) system replaces Guard Libra - Guard Primer length changes for every character, meter goes down if the character blocks the specific move that breaks the guard (e.g. blocking Λ-11-'s 214D will let meter go down by 2) - many guard break moves go through barrier - Guard primer will automatically recover but very slow - Guard Primer length 10 Tager 06 Hakumen Bang Tsubaki Hazama 05 Jin Noel Litchi Arakune 04 Ragna Rachel Taokaka Carl Λ-11- - option select tech throw during guard motion still works, but harder - Unable to cancel forward and back roll with specials or supers - tech throw glitch during counter hit motion and recovery time does not work - Unable to tech with pressing ABC at the same time, not able to option select tech throw and regular tech - Unable to jump during the barrier on the ground, you can not jump with barrier on, jump has bigger risk now - movable time after winning shortened. - general decrease in the combo damage, either there is a change in the damage calculation equation or big changes have made to combo rate of almost all moves - Change in the counter hit system. For moves with multiple hits, all hits during the move will retain the counter hit property if 1st hit is a counter. i.e Jin's B(1hit counter)>6C works in CT version but B(2hit)>6C does not work, in CS B(1st hit counter, 2hit)>6C works - Easier to get negative penalty Appearance - Special projectile such as Arakune's Bug and Rachel's frog has a circle around them, easier to identify (deleted in 2nd loketest ?) - better animation, more motion frames - new graphic effects, new voice - All special meters appear above the Heat Gauge - Jin's meter is separated into 4 parts, other characters' are separated into 2 parts - Bigger graphical effect when offset happens Videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0W47oECz8M (Litchi vs Jin) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzKKx0uqZzk (Rachel vs Jin) - Jin's Yukikaze http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i69bhVKGYWE (Rachel vs Hakumen) - Hakumen's blackhole http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKSGaQRYhMw rachel vs hazama (linked above) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc7HquvHuik tsubaki mirror (havent seen this one on youtube yet) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etNqbcSy_Ok (41 second clip of hazama tsubaki) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jJvtP_IBEQ (tsubaki vs taokaka) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fankwBdeM0M (Hazama vs Noel) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQxRM75x-bk (Jin vs Hakumen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK46qk8IKV0 (Noel vs Litchi) Screenshots Visit ttp://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/199/199115/ for more new pictures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 ALL 10/3-4 LOKE TEST INFORMATION IS IN THIS POST. HAZAMA Movelist: Jyabagi- 236d jyasetsu- 214d → ressenga A → gassyokyaku B → zaneiga C → 構え中断 D This is probably the cancel move hirentotsu- air 214b gasaisyou- 236c jyakou- 623d jyayokuhoutenjin- 236236B mizuchirekkazan- 632146c - 6A is overhead - 6B is a overhead feint into a low - 2C is AA - jc can be mashed for more hits I think - Time up lose pose is clapping like slayer (lawlz) - Win pose is spinning his hat on his finger. TSUBAKI - Tsubaki charge has AC OS charge speed now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Arakun: Cannot guard crush with bugs. You may want to also add that fever mode is time based, not meter based. so he is like zappa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Rachel's new dd requires all her remaining wind meter, effect changes depending on charge. Can use sword iris in the air, command has been changed. Edit: mistake with translation about wind recharge, removed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Jin's air d fireball now only has 2 swords instead of 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koozebanian Fazoob Report post Posted September 26, 2009 PLEASE ONLY POST CHANGES IN THIS THREAD, NO DISCUSSION. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Rachel info. She can only direct the wind a certain number of times, because her new DD consumes all of the uses. Something about their being a different color for something flying off screen. Sword Iris command changed to 214+C, can now be done in the air. Wind doesn't recover over time. Recovery time after 3D9C is "severe". JC doesn't decrease if the frog doesn't connect. Something about a combo against Tao, B > CD > Add C > Frog > Dash 3C > Pumpkin... ? Can't cancel J2C while recovering from a landing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 System: Burst no longer have damage penalty You start with 1 burst in round 1, and get 1 more burst per round, can stock two. So if you don't use your burst round one, you end up with 2 in round 2, but you can not stack anymore after that. Edit: Lose to gain burst +1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted September 26, 2009 System changes: No penalty for using Burst If you lose a round you start with +1 Burst in the next Sustainable Guard Libra Astral Heats are okay to use Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Sorry if I end up double posting. Bang: 3C can be cancled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 I believe that's incorrect. The guy is asking for that to be checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted September 26, 2009 He was asking if you can 3C>JC>J4C I think, but anyway, it doesn't seem to be clear if the change is true. Here's a translation of a big compilation of stuff that was posted: System: - It's unpolished - Burst Stock system might only be available when losing a round? - Guard Crash system system from Hokuto no Ken Ragna: Jin: - 5B is slower - J2C added Noel: - Crouches like Jin in 6A - Chain Revolver changes (the old 5C part is now the default D) - Firepower decreased (combo starting with 6B is down to 3100) - Landing after bullet rain is stiff (the counter) Tager: - His face is scarred. Taokaka: - Has big tits. Rachel: - New DD is a big forward moving type, like May's Great Yamada Attack. Arakune: - Upper dive, slower, not overhead - No Guard Crash with insects - Insects are randomly huge - Each insect has a round mark - Mark doesn't disappear even if you eat a hit - The cloud disappears when touched and the guage fills a bit, even when not blocked. Bang: - It's possible to JC 3C. - Nail projectile speed increased. Litchi: Carl: - Something about his throw? (Sorry, not sure what they're saying) - New select screen picture is pretty - J2C overhead - Can't Barrier Guard with Nirvana 8D (???) - 8D can't return in the air - New technique quickly reaches the edge of the screen Hakumen: Nu (actually Lambda): - Attack range decreased. Tsubaki: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 There is a change regarding Hakumen's missile cutting capabilities, along with another thing. I can't quite make it out, it's pretty strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Hakumen can catch new burst (treated as a special projectile). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 for bang: 3c jc-able on hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stunedge Report post Posted September 26, 2009 =EDIT TEST= Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Hakumen has a barrier projectile. Wow, that sounds nice. Edit: The way they are describing it sounds like pot's flick. I may be wrong though. But it is something you shoot out that acts as a shield (either pot's flick, or to a lesser extent ky's jd). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Noel does have a new move. It's a follow-up to 6d. Input and other details unknown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Taokaka: 5b counter no longer link into 6c. This may mean 5b hit level just dropped significantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felicia Report post Posted September 26, 2009 On guard, Bang's 3C can be jump-cancelled. Tager has double the guard libra of other characters. Tager has a new move: 4D. Very quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 alzarath delete that post. noel's overall damage seems to have went down. Jin's character specific combo only does 3.6k now (as opposed to 4.5k, iirc). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Ragna Diving technique seems to be named Dual Edge. Hakumen Barrier projectile for blocking other projectiles. Projectile looks like white circles with with letter closesly packed around the edge of a seal. Lambda People are calling her Lamb-chan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Felicia Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Hakumen's new barrier kanji looks like: 封 Carl attack power has been buffed. Tsubaki is fast, hits a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryokoalways Report post Posted September 26, 2009 Most of ragna's old combos still work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites