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[CS1] Jin Kisaragi Video & Discussion Thread

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WOW KC'S NEW VIDEO IS PRETTY COOL....

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10207353

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10207510

I could've believe that he was top before....

I would like to see how he fares now against the other top players...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDEts-DvMmo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61MNE1uSaG4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj_oRNBRSss

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From some recent GC tourny. I can't make anything out of it, other than what chars are being played. I will be uploading only the Jin ones. From here:

http://gamechariot.com/g3_100321_1st.html

(would appreciate if someone could translate the names of those in Jin videos).

Grand final

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNo1UjhEXBA

The rest, in chronological order:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF66th9jUmI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PFonjlxDg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eion7_gh7lI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf4kxy0k0u0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMggRUDPFc8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtdnD_WM4nI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foE8ZTQwyYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3BHB1j9QU

A Jin actually won this time.

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The name of that jin is actually shinjin means newcomer

the hakumen name is chin.... hmmmm interesting

I don't see dennou's name listed in there I wonder if that jin is just dennou in disguise

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can someone explain the recovery of jin's air ice shard. like from IAD hight, can you airdash?

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yup, I just read the comment below it.

that jin is just dennou with another nickname...

準決勝第1試合は「新人(ジン) VS 魔女っ子マホメット(ノエル)」

実はこの2人、ここ五井チャリオットの大会や対戦動画でお馴染みの「電脳」と「R-1」である。

普段から五井チャリや都内の大会で研鑽しあう2人の対決は、1ラウンド目で大逆転勝利した新人が2ラウンド目も取って決勝進出。

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can someone explain the recovery of jin's air ice shard. like from IAD hight, can you airdash?

the angled ones (236A/B) can be jumped after, and the straight one (236C) you can jump or airdash, so basically they have enough recovery that you can perform a second air movement. 236D you can't... I assume you're talking about the ice swords, if it's the ice cars... you better hit the opponent or you're screwed, recovery til landing unless RC'd

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yup, I just read the comment below it.

that jin is just dennou with another nickname...

Oh dennou, you card.

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I updated my earlier post with all the Jin matches in the tournament.

I am guessing a lot of these Jins are not regulars from the GC arcade or refuse to get recorded in casuals? Because I see a lot of unique playstyles here. As far as I can see, the Jin play here switches from very defensive to very offensive in a snap, tons of ice resets, tons of fireballs, etc. And a lot of RC'ing for Jin players.

EDIT: wow, some of those vids lag like hell. Re-upping.

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yea, I see it...

I wonder why Ren wasn't there in the tournament.

THere's a lot of other player from his arcade like Reki, yasu, bla bla...

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This maybe a bit irrelevant to the video but I always wondered how these top players looks like and from those links you can see their photo...

the guy with the trophy is of course dennou...

and for you guys(including me) curious of how Ren looks like here he is...

the guy on the farthest right

http://gamechariot.com/g3_100228_vision.html

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Yerp, jin pro. I gotta lose some weight and wear some spiffy glasses.

Anyways, I think I'll make this thread my personal R&D video archive and start pasting vids with Jins in them in here. I'll post their times so you guys don't have to search for them. I can't read moonspeak so I don't know who is in them.

I will include full character names so if people need to look for certain matchups (like myself), they can use the thread search function. I will also update with player names if provided. Upload dates are given to give you an idea of how old the tactics in the video are. I think I'll also put notes beside them if anything is notable.

Some of these you may have already seen. Like said, this is for archival purposes, so I can look them up whenever I want (and add to them whenever I want, so don't expect this regularly), but I'm sure they will be helpful to some (especially once console release comes around), so I'll share this resource here.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10235782 - uploaded 4/1/10

0:00 - vs Taokaka - kaino (JI) vs ABC (TA) - lose

12:31 - vs Litchi - ritto (JI) vs toeto (LI) - win

16:43 - vs Rachel - ritto (JI) vs usagi aisu (RC) - win

22:02 - vs Ragna - kiyo (RA) vs ritto (JI) - win

  • 23:32 - FC Combo - 2C > 6C > 2D > 6B > 5C > 2C > 6C > DC > 5C > 6C > DC > jC > JC > j2C > j.214D. 25 meter. 4295 damage. Does not need corner.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10235641 - uploaded 4/1/10

5:53 - vs Litchi - kaino (JI) vs toeto (LI) - lose

14:28 - vs Noel - ritto (JI) vs GUCCI (NO) - win

18:14 - vs Taokaka - ritto (JI) vs ABC (TA) - win

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There's 2 jin listed there

Kaino and Ritto...

1P側 かいの~(ジン)&ねこあいす(ツバキ)

kaino /jin nekoaisu/tsubaki

2P側 ABC(タオカカ)&GUCCI(ノエル)

abc taokaka gucci noel

1P側 うさぎあいす(レイチェル)&トエト(ライチ)

usagi aisu/ rachel toeto / litchi

2P側 キヨ@ニコ動公認残念ラグナ(ラグナ)&りっと(ジン)

kiyo/ ragna ritto / jin

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10228015 - uploaded 3/31/10

8:25 - vs Hakumen - Fuuga (JI) vs Sou (HA) - win

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10224104 - 3/31/10

0:18 - vs Taokaka - Yenge (JI) vs ABC (TA) win

8:18 - vs Noel - Yenge (JI) vs GUCCI (NO) - lose

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10224029 - 3/31/10

0:21 - vs Hakumen - Kaino (JI) vs Akamen (HA) - win

8:39 - vs Noel - Kaino (JI) vs 井野氏 - win

13:42 - vs Tager - Ritto (JI) - win

21:01 - vs Hakumen - Ritto (JI) - win

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10223869 - 3/31/10

3:47 - vs Ragna - Yenge (JI) - win

7:55 - vs Hazama - Yenge (JI) - win

I updated the previous post w/ more btw.

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Yo thanks Banger, this makes my job of MUCH easier since tbqh i just like uploading jin matches :P

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I HAS NAMES

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10228015 - uploaded 3/31/10

8:25 - vs Hakumen - win

Fuuga/Jin Sou/Hakumen

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10224104 - 3/31/10

0:18 - vs Taokaka - win

8:18 - vs Noel - lose

YENGE = JIN

TAOKAKA = ABC

NOEL = GUCCI

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10224029 - 3/31/10

0:21 - vs Hakumen - win

Kaino/Jin vs Akamen/Hakumen

8:39 - vs Noel - win

Kaino/Jin vs (I am not sure how to read these 3 kanji)井野氏

13:42 - vs Tager - win

Ritto/Jin

21:01 - vs Hakumen - win

Ritto/Jin

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10223869 - 3/31/10

3:47 - vs Ragna - win

7:55 - vs Hazama - win

Both Jin is YENGE

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I like Ritto playstyle....

and I learned some of new combo too I guess...

too bad I can't really see the dmg of it...

can anyone tell me the damage of that last combo on ragna

5C(CH)>6C>2D>6C>DP D> 6C> 6D> 5C> .... so on

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The combo that guy, Kaino, pulled off at 12:24 in the Jin vs Noel match was beast...

DP D > 6C > 6D > 5C > 6C > DC > DP D > 5C > Ice Car C for 4.4K, not bad.

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I really want to try those corner 6D > 6D > 5B > 2B > 5C > 3C > 236D resets, but I never found the chance to last I played. Does 3C > 236D work on all characters or only those with reasonably large hitboxes?

Thanks for translating the names souseta. This will make it easier to find certain jins/playstyles. Something other than typical GC players, lol (not that their bad).

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yes, but you have to be closer depending on the size of the character. like on tager, there's practically no dash spliting necessary. but on characters like Carl Noel Tao, and even litchi, you should try to 5B (2hit) and go directly into 3c 236D. Also Arc really need to fight Sega for the FRC rights, that come with the GG title. think of jin with FRCs on all his projectilles... but then think of rachel and kune and Lambda.... nvm about the FRCs xD

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For some reason I loved the Air Dash > jB > jC > land > 5C > 3C > 2B > 5C > HJC > jB > jC > jD > 236B > 214C. Burst baiting with Yukikaze was also pretty stylish, looking foward to the final version.

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