[CS1] Iron Tager Video Thread

[Darlos9D]

Leo, I don't think that third link is what you thought it was.

[Leo7]

They removed that video for some reason, and reuploaded it. Here's the reuploaded URL (edit: updated the previous post as well):

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10980770

Again vs Dora (TG) & Masuyama (BA)

Kind of hope that vids of Galileo/Tenchi vs Shounen/Eesuke from the acho SBO qualifiers are uploaded at some point.

[Manta]

Am I the only person who finds it strange that Akira uses the B-type button layout?

[ahdes]

sorry im quite new with tager. and ive been trying training mode with various characters

but i cant seem to do the combo which links from collider into collider whiff which will pull the magnetised enemy to your foot for you to do a 6k -> combo

can anyone shed some light?

[mAc Chaos]

They need to be magnetized.

[Sponson]

They need to be magnetized.

Right, not being magnetized is the only way they won't budge. You can tell by the little static particle effects around the opponent, and all of Tager's drives will cause varying lengths of magnetism.

[ahdes]

sorry im quite new with tager. and ive been trying training mode with various characters

but i cant seem to do the combo which links from collider into collider whiff which will pull the magnetised enemy to your foot for you to do a 6k -> combo

can anyone shed some light?

i did make sure they were magnetised. but i cant seem to pull them all the way to my foot. they only move a little. just as much as they would when i j.D

[Sponson]

i did make sure they were magnetised. but i cant seem to pull them all the way to my foot. they only move a little. just as much as they would when i j.D

... is this Calamity Trigger or Continuum Shift? I hate to ask but it does make a difference.

[Manta]

Doesn't this want to be in general discussion?

Yeah, such things were not possible in CT. Another reason is that you're doing it too late, AC won't pull in someone who is on the floor.

If you're getting the pull in but they keep teching before the 6K, then you're simply not doing it quick enough, you can either practice it, or just get lazy and use 2B instead.

[ahdes]

thanks manta. youre right. it was too late. i should start inputing even before the first collider animation is out!

[g0th1k4]

i'll answer here, but yea this is supposed to go in the discussion board

the collider has a big window you can do, normally for us we have a general feel for it, so we don't really base our timing on any visual hints, but for someone new, you can try doing something like, input collider as they bounce, input it after your first collider is finished, stuff like that

[Manta]

thanks manta. youre right. it was too late. i should start inputing even before the first collider animation is out!

A general rule when reading any combo is that you should be perform the final input of any move immediately after the previous attack connects (for moves which cancel) or as soon as the previous move recovers (for links, Which don't cancel). Due to the advance input feature in Blazblue, you can actually be pressing the next input up to five frames before you're actually able to perform that move if you hold the button down.

For example, look at the ...623C (whiff), 6B, 2C, 623C... part of the combo you were trying to do.

the moment you press C for the first collider, Tager begins to raise his hand. At this point you can already be pressing 6 ready to then press B. Once you've pressed B you can be holding 2 before the 6B attack has connected, ready to press C the moment 6B Does hit. Then finally, 623 can be inputted before the 2C lands so you can just tap C at the end and get that part of the combo.

I made this seem so long and complicated, but it's really just the same trick over and over that's existed in fighting games since cancelling was even possible, most of us don't even realise we're doing it. You cannot hope to be any good at this or other games without being able to do this without thinking.

[A.X.I.S.]

AI has a few more vids of Mike Z.

and I already learned new things watching them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1oLjlqWE0E&feature=digest

[Leo7]

gah @ this mikez vs dacid vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S6kjMmssYE

i hate frkz.

also, i'll post some recent galileo vids ... these vids are old, but just in case some people haven't seen these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKyLaL9Ya_o (vs Tokuwaraa's Litchi)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejqbyNlyGbs (vs Den's Bang)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZx0VTOQQrc (recent casual acho vid)

and alright, since everyone's doing it, here's a recent vid of my tager in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wTOgzsAW8o#t=4m03s

waseda tourney. in this vid, i fight a Tao and Haku player. There are other vids of me in that set of vids, but I'm trolling/fucking around/being a general retard in the other vids and losing for being a failure of a troll, so they're not exactly worth watching (actually I start being a retard when I fight the haku player above tbh).

[A.X.I.S.]

awesome vids...leo your a terrible scrub.

also does A sledge have more untech time?

because that combo mike did was 5D>236A>5C>6A>623C.

either that or I need to wash my eyes.

[Leo7]

i don't think a-sledge is changed at all from ct. and yea i'm a scrub, thanks axis. any other similar criticism would be appreciated. (any serious criticism would be appreciated as well)

edit:

Random old Tager CS vid ... http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9303319 <-- 17 minutes of Tager mirrors (one of the tags says Super Tager Time). Yoru, Akira, Afro vs ZEL, Yuumura, Muramatsu

also, random vid of Yoru's Tager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYvBQSwjVAY

posting cuz i was amused by the ending

[A.X.I.S.]

coopa what is this I don't even...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6K7jm16mb8

you need some work buddy...and lol @ both of you doing american bursts and resets!

my god who is this tager? this guy is fucking cash.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AutonomousR#p/u/11/rw9uHCyrZOE

what is this? even japanese players do it man.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AutonomousR#p/u/42/MD9OIK9lUfY

[Dacidbro]

Tell him what to improve, if you're gonna talk smack.

[Leo7]

my god who is this tager? this guy is fucking cash.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AutonomousR#p/u/11/rw9uHCyrZOE

that's Kouji, the only Tager who qualified in SBO last year in BBCT. there are a few other vids of him floating around i believe. there are a lot of good tager players in the kansai area for some reason.

the 2nd tager player i'm not sure though (i believe the red carl player is ran revo though). note that gadget rc trick he did at the end of the first round. if you rc at the right place, the opponent is in an untechable state i think until he lands on the ground, in which case you can reset the combo as soon as he lands. i've been seeing this a lot lately.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11211486 <-- first match of this vid (Akitsuki vs Dio) shows a similar trick, but Akitsuki does Gadget RC walk forward 6b. i want to add akitsuki is hilarious to watch.

[Heroic_Legacy]

Tell him what to improve, if you're gonna talk smack.

Hit confirming helps.

[ZONG_one]

The red Carl is not renrebo. iirc, he plays default color.

[Leo7]

yea you're right, ranrebo uses default (why do so many carls like default anyways).

ah i found the other vid of kouji's aggressive cs tager:

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9839322

vs kogatan (ji) and shounen (li), note how old the vid is though, which is why shounen's doing old combos. skip the first match if you want to see tager.

[ZONG_one]

Yeah, most Carl players in jp play default, or dio's color. lol.

Kyaku, of course, goes with the bottom color as always.

I have been seeing people use other colors recently. I believe eesuke uses pink.

Someone also uses my color now. o.O

[A.X.I.S.]

Tell him what to improve, if you're gonna talk smack.

I'm not on CS yet but some but a bigger grasp on fundamentals would help.

also IBing the shit out of litchi's block strings.

[rei-Scarred]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDAesyo9vp4

Last round may be one of the greatest rounds played by a Tager that's not Galileo ever.

Two others in this set on pktazns channel I don't feel like linking.