Kain Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I would not call tager slow IMO. Yes, you can do more charges but it is not like you can do it when ever you want. Tager has magnetism which makes him go faster and looks like it can do alot of DAMAGE if you are NOT playing safe. Also, he has got a projectile I dunno about you, but a person whose best way of getting in at 1/2 screen distance is B Sledge/Barrier Superjump due to no forward dash/hop/command dash sounds slow to me. And if you wanna talk 'lots of damage if you don't play safe', look at Tager's highest damage output (CT) with magnetism. That's 2.5K more than his command grab super... On-topic: I was wondering about RC combos after 22A/B/C/D ender in Tsubaki's BnB. Would it be possible to RC Sword into a basic aircombo and end it with j.236C or is Sword JCable/DD-cancelable? (Doesn't look like it from the videos) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonDisaster Report post Posted December 9, 2009 No reason to RC it when you can combo after lvl2 22C if there weren't too many hits before it anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nakkiel Report post Posted December 9, 2009 That's what the players should've done already. I'm suprised they don't know the meaning of "bait," unless they used to be OS players. You should learn what you're talking about before you open your mouth, scrub :8/: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Hey, I haven't seen Tsubaki's Charge-Mugen Super yet. Is there a vid of it out there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nakkiel Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I think there was a vid of somebody using it during a loketest, but other than that I haven't seen any. It isn't seeming too useful, but at this point who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuki Garyuu Report post Posted December 9, 2009 You should learn what you're talking about before you open your mouth, scrub :8/: deare da @Skye: Is she supposed to HAVE one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nakkiel Report post Posted December 9, 2009 deare da @Skye: Is she supposed to HAVE one? weeaboo And yes, she has one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Rev Report post Posted December 9, 2009 I dunno about you, but a person whose best way of getting in at 1/2 screen distance is B Sledge/Barrier Superjump due to no forward dash/hop/command dash sounds slow to me. And if you wanna talk 'lots of damage if you don't play safe', look at Tager's highest damage output (CT) with magnetism. That's 2.5K more than his command grab super... Sure, he doesn't have foward dash/hop/command dash/etc. But All of his moves are faster now. Just because Tager can get in at 1/2 screen doesn't mean he is slow. He walks faster and his attacks are faster. And we are not talking about CT. We are talking about CS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
k4polo Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Sure, he doesn't have foward dash/hop/command dash/etc. But All of his moves are faster now. Just because Tager can get in at 1/2 screen doesn't mean he is slow. He walks faster and his attacks are faster. And we are not talking about CT. We are talking about CS Compared to other characters he is slow but quite powerful as usual. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Rev Report post Posted December 9, 2009 Compared to other characters he is slow but quite powerful as usual. Yep, he is slow compared to other characters but I would not call him slow IMO. and yes, he is powerful. He does have the ULTIMATE POWER After all :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
choysauce Report post Posted December 9, 2009 how is the recovery for her 22a/b/c?? wondering if it might have any use by itself. cuz i find it pretty hard to get in without D charging star since her normals are so short. and is the 6c's range far enough for a CH 5b to connect at the tip? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kro_ Report post Posted December 10, 2009 how is the recovery for her 22a/b/c?? wondering if it might have any use by itself. cuz i find it pretty hard to get in without D charging star since her normals are so short. and is the 6c's range far enough for a CH 5b to connect at the tip? 6c should connect after 5b CH at the tip since Tsubaki moves forward a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
choysauce Report post Posted December 10, 2009 is it too early to start up match up threads? cuz i have trouble against ragna, his pokes are too good lol, and i know against tager you just need to IB the crap out of everything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted December 10, 2009 Tsubaki's go to plan is to IB stuff when under pressure. If you have a charge DP, when you get the chance. Not advice, suggestions. I haven't played it, so.....yeah, I'll be quiet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ginseng Report post Posted December 10, 2009 is it too early to start up match up threads? cuz i have trouble against ragna, his pokes are too good lol, and i know against tager you just need to IB the crap out of everything Nah, matchup threads at this point in time aren't a good idea, considering only a maximum of 5 players have played Tsubaki in the US lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Rev Report post Posted December 10, 2009 I haven't played it, so.....yeah, I'll be quiet... Don't be quiet. This is what a general discussion is about. If you have got any advice/suggestions/questions, then post them here. The more you ask about stuffs, the more things you know about a character Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted December 10, 2009 I suppose that's true... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirbeh Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Tsubakiiii, I want to play you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuki Garyuu Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Don't be quiet. This is what a general discussion is about. If you have got any advice/suggestions/questions, then post them here. The more you ask about stuffs, the more things you know about a character Dedicated Tsubaki player, you have become. But enough fidgeting, show me the love! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
choysauce Report post Posted December 11, 2009 i guess i'll ask then, how do you guys feel about the ragna/bang matchup? that rushdown is killing her chargability. and esp. ragna's long ass normals. what do ya'll think is the best way to deal with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Theoretic Suggestions Hm, sounds like you'll have to flesh out some moves that have long/moderate untechable time, 2d, or j.d. For Bang, try to stop your strings with a jump cancellable move, IAD back and j.d. It sounds like you're really going to have to go out of your way to gets some bits and pieces in, like a charge cancellable attack on CH. Don't the j.236 series have some untechable time depending on the version you use? That may make things easier. Just brain storming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moogster Report post Posted December 11, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9063548 @ 0:42 I think that's Inoue doing a no charge combo for 3.5k. Edit: My mistake. Inoue used a charge after all. @ 3:12 5k+ combo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Nah, there was one charge used at :42. Neat corner combo, however. *continues watching* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moogster Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Yeah my mistake after rewatching it. Didn't see that she used in the dive. Re-editing. Watching the whole 12/7 2on2 Mikado Tournament. Plenty of Tsubaki footage with a bonus of a Tsubaki winning the tournament for the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hurricane Rev Report post Posted December 11, 2009 Dedicated Tsubaki player, you have become. lool Thanks alot. I love the Pictures btw . i guess i'll ask then, how do you guys feel about the ragna/bang matchup? that rushdown is killing her chargability. and esp. ragna's long ass normals. what do ya'll think is the best way to deal with it? vs Ragna, Tsubaki has a slight disadvantage because Ragna pretty much surpasses Tsubaki in every way. Damage, range, priority, invincibility, etc. However, Tsubaki's speed is greater than Ragna's speed. Also, most of her combos end with knocking the opponent far away from her into the corner so that you can do another combo. I don't know anything about bang yet. So i won't comment :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites