JinSaotome Report post Posted September 9, 2010 assuming Tager is cancelling at the earliest possible moment, you HAVE to IB in order to punish 2C after 6A, if I'm reading the frame data right. (Which is your best friend in finding out what to IB Jayoku, btw!) As far as I can tell though, 2C->4D is unpunishable assuming its a gatling. However, if you ib 4D, you will beat out everything(!!) that Tager can throw out immediately afterwards (except magnatech wheel and possibly delayed 720 or delayed 360A if they're some kind of robot programmed to play Tager) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifuuku Report post Posted September 9, 2010 ib 4d is free 5a Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joshkip Report post Posted September 15, 2010 assuming Tager is cancelling at the earliest possible moment, you HAVE to IB in order to punish 2C after 6A, if I'm reading the frame data right. (Which is your best friend in finding out what to IB Jayoku, btw!) As far as I can tell though, 2C->4D is unpunishable assuming its a gatling. However, if you ib 4D, you will beat out everything(!!) that Tager can throw out immediately afterwards (except magnatech wheel and possibly delayed 720 or delayed 360A if they're some kind of robot programmed to play Tager) what a coincidence i have a guy here who mains tager and he is pretty much a robot who is great at rock, paper, scissors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordSpectreX Report post Posted September 28, 2010 In the rare occassion that Tager gets near me and starts forcing me to block, what should I do? I try jumping away to stop the 360s, but he just does 5A, 6A, j.B or Atomic Collider to bring myself in again. Any ideas? Thanks. inb4 Jayaku. I'm refering to when that isn't ready for use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZONG_one Report post Posted September 28, 2010 IB and jump out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordSpectreX Report post Posted September 28, 2010 So the only hope I have against Tager is too just know when I've IBed an attack, online, and jump, chain away, hoping he doesn't atomic collider or continue pressure? Sounds about right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZONG_one Report post Posted September 28, 2010 That or mash 5A. But 360 will beat 5A. And I didn't say anything about chains. Just IB and sj back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordSpectreX Report post Posted September 28, 2010 But he'll just 5D/2D my ass. Well, guess the lesson is, don't let him in. :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seifuuku Report post Posted September 28, 2010 ib and jump jb will beat collider most of the time not like you have an excuse to not ib against tager anyway.. too easy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DecusAusbruch Report post Posted September 29, 2010 I've been able to hit a Tager with Mizuchi Rekkazan while he was in the middle of charging up for his spark bolt. Will this happen every time? Or can he get out of it quick enough to block, considering I enter the distortion phase while he is still charging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LordSpectreX Report post Posted September 29, 2010 I've been able to hit a Tager with Mizuchi Rekkazan while he was in the middle of charging up for his spark bolt. Will this happen every time? Or can he get out of it quick enough to block, considering I enter the distortion phase while he is still charging. You can, you just have to do it when it's about to end. Though to be honest, unless it kills him, I wouldn't bother. Save the heat for Jayaku. Edit: Raging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaseOak Report post Posted January 25, 2011 Yeah, I'll admit to finding this match-up a bit tricky. My main problem: the Tager player is likely to spam his 2D, so I get magnetised on block. I can usually avoid being grabbed by spamming 3C (which, of course, I can then continue into a combo) - but if my opponent anticipated this and blocked low, I'd be in trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YukiBlue Report post Posted May 30, 2011 Matchup is more or less the same. Free for a Smart Hazama. Spam D-A, Bait, Bait some more, then a little more for the hell of it. Spamming the aforementioned D-A nets Heat Gain, Heat Gain = Jayoku = 7K = More heat = FREE Serious, though, Caseoak. Stay of his range and claim a free combo when he gets up. Use D-A a ton and build heat, and zip in on confirmed chains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeron_X25 Report post Posted June 14, 2011 What do you do against a heavily offensive Tager who jump D's you every second and knows when to barrier block and shit? I know there are moves to counter this kind of offensive strategy but I really have a hard time against offensive Tagers. It's actually annoying. Not sure which moves beat what pressure of his. And D~A doesn't do me shit cause they generally know not to spam sledge. I'm just making a fool of myself that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fluck Report post Posted June 14, 2011 If you want to lame this match out then j.Ds should not be a problem, abuse chains and fly to the other side of the screen whenever Tager comes close. It's pretty much the safest option and Tager's only option is Spark Bolt, so that's all you need to watch out for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroRaider Report post Posted June 17, 2011 Why the crap is this thread so many pages? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
