POscrub Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Tiamat: It used to be like in #R. But Potemkin has been buffed so much since then, it's a lot evener than it should be :D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I guess Eddie vs Pot being 6.5-3.5 is plausible. Still probably the worst match up in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Well, if we actually saw a matchup chart that is current, all doubts would be taken away. So far I wouldn't bet on 6.5-3.5 being the worst matchup in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EasyModeNub Report post Posted January 7, 2008 6.5-3.5 would be a pretty bad match up.... but eddie having that kind of match vs pot isn't suprising at all, I would say even 7-3. But really doesn't everybody have a bad match vs eddie? (I'm not including testicle, he doesn't count as a real character in my mind) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted January 7, 2008 But really doesn't everybody have a bad match vs eddie? (I'm not including testicle, he doesn't count as a real character in my mind) I'm pretty sure Baiken and Chipp are even with Eddie. I'm pretty sure he's even with a lot of characters in the A and B tiers, but not everyone in the game has a bad match up against him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiamat Report post Posted January 7, 2008 anji is pretty decent against eddie despite the big tier gap. probably only 5.5-4.5 eddie advantage or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chun_li1 Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I guess Eddie vs Pot being 6.5-3.5 is plausible. Still probably the worst match up in the game. I dont think sooooo. There are more out there. If top tiers can have very bad match ups, low tiers sure have ´em too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I dont think sooooo. There are more out there. If top tiers can have very bad match ups, low tiers sure have ´em too. :8/: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtTheGates Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I dont think sooooo. There are more out there. If top tiers can have very bad match ups, low tiers sure have ´em too. QFT. and as i said before, eddie vs chipp = 6:4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasou Report post Posted January 7, 2008 pretty much anyone that can do a lot of damage off a single throw/high/low mixup without tension is an automatic 6:4 against chipp. It's like one knockdown, one combo, and 2 random hits is all it takes to end chipp's life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vegta12 Report post Posted January 7, 2008 i feel like may and ino is like a 7:3 in may favor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted January 7, 2008 pretty much anyone that can do a lot of damage off a single throw/high/low mixup without tension is an automatic 6:4 against chipp. It's like one knockdown, one combo, and 2 random hits is all it takes to end chipp's life. So... uh... over half the cast has 6:4 against Chipp? :8/: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasou Report post Posted January 7, 2008 of course this is my opinion, so that's like: eddie, jam, may, pot and sol. Not really half the cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honnou Report post Posted January 7, 2008 Slayer? Johnny can hurt chipp really badly too, especially since chipp is one of the characters that Johnny can do 2d, coin, 5k/5s, lv2 HMF, then air combo killer joker nonsense 50%-70% damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted January 7, 2008 :8/: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasou Report post Posted January 7, 2008 um, sorry that i wasn't clear. I said it would just be an automatic harder matchup for chipp if the opponent can do tensionless big damage off a throw as well. I never said that was the end of the hard matchups for chipp. Btw, imo i don't think johnny is a problem to fight against at all. Hell chipp's 6p goes through his 5k, 6k and s(f) pretty easily; johnny has no easy way out of chipp's frame traps; his 2hs is very baitable and punishable with just a single jump or a well spaced gamma blade. Other than that, chipp's got his 6p for a decent anti air, making it hard for johnny to get in, and 6hs for corner lock down. Basically it's dead even. to elaborate further, johnny usually needs a coin and tension to create a good enough mixup to catch any player off guard and deal the big damage. This is a bit different from the other characters i was talking about, where a single throw can already deal the big damage without any tension/spacing at all. Anyway, maybe i'm just used to the matchup. Shrug, but i've played my fair share of good johnny's so Im standing quite firm on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4r5 Report post Posted January 7, 2008 I would say your Johnny vs Chipp is on point. I'm all about losing to all the local wanna-be Chipp players. I don't think I'd like to know what a fight with a real Chipp is like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henaki Report post Posted January 8, 2008 eddie vs pot doesnt feel like 6.5 v 3.5 probably because potemkin like..... iks eddie if he ever gets momentum (which he actually CAN get). its most definitely pots worst matchup tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted January 8, 2008 Or perhaps, because Potemkins do stand somewhat of a chance against Eddies in Japanese matchvids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Helter Skelter Report post Posted January 16, 2008 Are the translations for the remaining characters going to be finished? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hellmonkey Report post Posted January 16, 2008 i don't feel the information is useful enough to translate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vicioso Report post Posted January 18, 2008 anyone know if the tiers have changed at all? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AtTheGates Report post Posted January 18, 2008 ogawa's eddie matchup list: vs. RKY: 6:4 vs. HOS: 6:4 vs. ABA: 6:4 vs. I-NO: 5.5:4.5 vs. zappa: 6:4 vs. buri: 6:4 vs. Anji: 6:4 vs. Venom: 6:4 vs. Testa: 5:5 vs. Dizzy: 6:4 vs. Slayer: 5.5:4.5 vs. Chipp: 6:4 vs. Jam: 5.5:4.5 vs. Axl: 6:4 vs. Johnny: 6:4 vs. Pot: 6.5:3.5 vs. Baiken: 5.5:4.5 vs. Faust: 6:4 vs. Sol: 6:4 vs. Ky: 6:4 vs. Millia: 5.5:4.5 vs. May: 6:4 vs. Eddie: 5:5 (no rly) there's also detailed info about those matchups (and a eddie combo list), but i don't have access to a scanner right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4r5 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Here's one off Bleed's blog http://blog.livedoor.jp/project2_5_0_1/archives/2007-10.html Johnny vs: Sol = 5.5:4.5 Ky = 4.5:5.5 May = 5:5 Millia = 4.5:5.5 Eddie = 4:6 Potemkin = 4:6 Chipp = 5:5 Faust = 5:5 Baiken (Bye Ken) = 5.5:4.5 Jam = 4:6 Axl = 4:6 Anji = 5:5 Venom = 4.5:5.5 Testament = 4.5:5.5 Dizzy = 5:5 Slayer = 4.5:5.5 I-No = 4.5:5.5 Zappa = 5:5 Bridget = 5:5 Robo-Ky = 6:4 ABA = 4.5:5.5 Order-Sol = 5.5:4.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hideki Report post Posted January 20, 2008 ogawa's eddie matchup list: vs. RKY: 6:4 vs. HOS: 6:4 vs. ABA: 6:4 vs. I-NO: 5.5:4.5 vs. zappa: 6:4 vs. buri: 6:4 vs. Anji: 6:4 vs. Venom: 6:4 vs. Testa: 5:5 vs. Dizzy: 6:4 vs. Slayer: 5.5:4.5 vs. Chipp: 6:4 vs. Jam: 5.5:4.5 vs. Axl: 6:4 vs. Johnny: 6:4 vs. Pot: 6.5:3.5 vs. Baiken: 5.5:4.5 vs. Faust: 6:4 vs. Sol: 6:4 vs. Ky: 6:4 vs. Millia: 5.5:4.5 vs. May: 6:4 vs. Eddie: 5:5 (no rly) there's also detailed info about those matchups (and a eddie combo list), but i don't have access to a scanner right now. Can you please post the combo list and some matchups when you have time? Thanks in advice. :china: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites