EclipsingBinary Report post Posted December 20, 2008 And, of course Ogawa puts Eddie at #1... Eddie has pretty much been unanimously considered number one since the game came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted December 20, 2008 I think people have gotten the hang of playing against Potemkin there, so they generally know how to avoid his heavy damage and that kinda reduces his effectiveness quite a bit. And well, Eddie, he has several pretty good normals along side his little Eddie game, not to mention the stupid durillus:P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 20, 2008 im pretty sure you guys can all agree with me here. in accent core, you get hit by a random jab XXXXXXX you lose half life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alucard19 Report post Posted December 20, 2008 sol an chipp as good as potemkin :\ it's like impossible to believe in this, but well, it's only ogawa's opinion. LMAO @ ONLY ogawa's opinion! I'll take his word over anyone on this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HolyOrderChipp Report post Posted December 20, 2008 im pretty sure you guys can all agree with me here. in accent core, you get hit by a random jab XXXXXXX you lose half life. Nono, you get hit with a CH j.H from Slayer and lose half your life. You get hit with an FB puffball and lose half your life... You get hit with CH Fafnir and lose half your life. Off of random, tiny pokes, you might take 100 damage. Maybe. But, for example, no one would do a huge, resource-intensive combo off a wimpy, prorating 5P... But yes, damage in this game is pretty silly. I'm a scrub, but my O-Sol busts out half-life combos all the time... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 20, 2008 haha i would like to let you know that ive done 50% off of i-no's 5p =P jam can convert 2k 2d into crazy damage given the right set ups and may can turn 2k 2d into crazy damage given the right set ups sol does wild throw and you lose like 40% life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shining Aquas Report post Posted December 20, 2008 Starting matches with half life combos with Anji is hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 20, 2008 games not even all about counter hits slayer really does convert damage off of everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HolyOrderChipp Report post Posted December 20, 2008 "Huge damage" off a prorating 2K? Now this I'd like to see... Still, damage in this game is ludicrous. But, the freeform combos are part of why I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 20, 2008 psh we all know proration pretty much doesnt mean shit if sol gets 40% off his wild throw =0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 21, 2008 so back to tier discussion. eddie really is god tier in accent core. you can't really even put testament in the same league. testament loses to axl and he has a harder time zoning than eddie does. Eddie is a lot harder to block, does more damage, dizzies characters alot easier and doesn't have any bad match ups. seeing ogawa play makes eddie look more broke that he already is. i can imagine those people fighting ogawa they must be like : "shit i got put in this damn block string again" and when they get out, they're like: "shit i got deez big ass drills to worry about" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abominable K Report post Posted December 21, 2008 No way should Sol be anywhere near Pot in a tier list. If Sol were as good as Pot I might actually win matches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jais Report post Posted December 21, 2008 No way should Sol be anywhere near Pot in a tier list. If Sol were as good as Pot I might actually win matches I don't see why Sol is credited as being so bad He has solid damage, crazy abahre, a command grab, VV, options galore. I think Sol players try and make sound worse than he really is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abominable K Report post Posted December 21, 2008 I was kidding; I'm not on a level yet where I can blame his limitations as opposed to lack of experience. That said, Potemkin seems to have a lot more favorable matchups than Sol, which would put him in a different tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbq sauce Report post Posted December 21, 2008 "Huge damage" off a prorating 2K? Now this I'd like to see... Still, damage in this game is ludicrous. But, the freeform combos are part of why I love it. 2K,2H,BBU (fill in blanks) I don't actually think Slayer 2k prorates as much as others do, but still.. lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JinSaotome Report post Posted December 21, 2008 yeah, 2k (I'm pretty sure) doesn't really prorate. Most of his proration comes from 2H (80%) which is a huge staple in his combos. Without that proration, his average damage would be (even more) gamebreaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonDisaster Report post Posted December 21, 2008 "Huge damage" off a prorating 2K? Now this I'd like to see... Still, damage in this game is ludicrous. But, the freeform combos are part of why I love it. Not sure how much other characters get off 2K, but Slayer's 2K only prorates 90% so with bar you can pretty easily do something like 2K > 2D RC 5H into whatever style of air combo you prefer for around 210+ damage if you were anywhere near something resembling a corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sytha Report post Posted December 21, 2008 Most Characters have 2Ks that prorate 70% Some have 80%. The ones that don't hit low even prorate I think. Like Eddie's. Slayer kinda lacks Proration in general. j.H, 2H (forced), 2K, Undertow, Bite and Pilebunker are it I think. Edit:I guess his is 6 frames. I thought it was 5. Still other characters have slower ones that prorate a lot more with less range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zerite Report post Posted December 21, 2008 Actually I think the people fighting Ogawa are thinking, "This is bullshit." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whytesakura Report post Posted December 22, 2008 man if i played eddies like ogawa's or marlin's id be blocking all types of shit by now =P eddie guard strings are pretty vicious lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bucklemyshoe Report post Posted December 22, 2008 However, characters like Millia, Chip, and I-no's great mixup don't really account for the lack of damage they deal and the more damage they receive. You are aware that I-No's B&B combos net between 230 and 280 damage right? She has other combos that can reach past the 300 mark and aren't impossible to pull off in a match. Beyond that, even the low damage throw combos end in a knockdown or a reset setup. I-No's defense isn't exactly shit either. As an I-No player I've always thought that I-No's low tier rank was because of the lack of priority on her moves, the fact that everything she does requires tension, and her lacking a good poke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoogstin Report post Posted December 22, 2008 I agree. I can definitely say that I-no hits like a tank. I've experienced it. And yeah unfortunately for her she can definitely be outpoked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HolyOrderChipp Report post Posted December 23, 2008 2K,2H,BBU (fill in blanks) I don't actually think Slayer 2k prorates as much as others do, but still.. lol. Touche. But what of Slayer's doesn't deal huge damage? The original post said something about Jam 2K 2D into huge damage, which I thought was dubious... At least, probably not worth the resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axel Report post Posted December 23, 2008 Touche. But what of Slayer's doesn't deal huge damage? The original post said something about Jam 2K 2D into huge damage, which I thought was dubious... At least, probably not worth the resources. It leads to charged Ryujin, which leads to wall combo, knockdown and possibly dizzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites