shtkn Report post Posted February 22, 2010 COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF TERMS ON THE WIKI http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=Notation Some simple ones: WHAT DO THE NUMBERS MEAN? 789 456 123 look at a numpad on a keyobard. Each number represents a direction so 6 is right and 8 is straight up. 5 would be neutral (not moving in any direction). 236A would be a street fighter styled fireball motion and pressing the A button. WHAT'S A FRAME? a frame is the smallest unit of time in a fighting game. Most fighting games run at 60 frames per second, so instead of using terms like 0.0125 seconds, we just say 1 frame. For example an attack that starts up in 12 frames means it will be active in 0.2 seconds. WHAT ARE ALL THE ABBREVIATIONS/ LINGO? read the conventions link. Here are a few common ones: CH = counter hit j = while jumping so j.2C = while jumping, press down + C black beat/ blue beat = a combo that the opponent could have escaped out of if they had teched hit confirm = a technique of only doing the rest of a combo if the first hit actually hits the opponent. Some of these can be quite hard. whiff = an attack that completely misses the opponent. Imagine your attack hitting only the air. cancel = performing a second attack while the first attack is still happening thereby canceling the animation of the first attack. There are very many types of cancels, and they are all used for various things. link = a combo where you must wait for the first attack to recover completely before doing the second attack. Links typically take some time to do consistently, so keep on practicing! gatling = revolver action = normal attacks that cancel into one another. mixup = having the opportunity to attack the opponent in 2 or more ways at once without giving the opponent much time to react (high/low/crossup/throw). crossup = jumping over the opponent and hitting them just as the opponent's character turns around. This is useful as it's difficult to block and stops the opponent from doing DPs (because their inputs will be reversed when you cross them up). tiger knee = the act of doing an air attack very low to the ground. Comes from the command for Sagat's Tiger Knee attack in Street Fighter 2. EX: doing Jin's j.236C by pressing 2369C. chicken block = jumping into the air and blocking rather than standing on teh ground and being forced to guess a high-low mixup. MORE ABBREVIATIONS DP = dragon punch. Refers to attacks whose utility is similar Ryu's dragon punch from street fighter. This does not mean that the motion to perform the move needs to be the same. SRK = shoryuken = dragon punch FD = faultless defense = barrier block. A type of blocking where you negate chip damage and increase pushback at the cost of meter. IB = instant block. Blocking just before an attack strikes you makes you flash white, recover faster, etc. FC = fatal counter. Blazblue specific mechanic for making all subsequent attacks in a combo deal more hitstun IK = instant kill. Guilty Gear specific mechanic for instant killing an opponent. Mostly for show. OCV = one character victory. Used in team battles where one player defeats the entire opposing team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jais Report post Posted March 27, 2010 Delete this and append 'Grounded' somewhere. :china: shtkn edit: Grounded means you must air barrier / air fd to block this attack in the air. On the ground, any block would work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Digital Watches Report post Posted March 28, 2010 The fighting game general stuff doesn't always match up with what's in common usage around these parts, but otherwise good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcowski Report post Posted March 29, 2010 The zetaboards pages have been moved: http://s1.zetaboards.com/blazblue/pages/bbct/ http://s1.zetaboards.com/blazblue/pages/bbcs/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukianesa Drive Report post Posted April 12, 2010 some of the things I was looking for weren't here, like pressure-strings. I found cross-up, which, like I thought was something I knew, but hadn't associated with a word. Anyway, also, I am confused by 5D, 6C. I only play GG for xbox, and so far, BB CT for 360, so, as I assume this applies to arcade sticks? I really should know it, anyone able to help with that. i'm pretty new to taking fighting games this seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tofurr Report post Posted April 12, 2010 I am confused by 5D, 6C. the numbers represent a direction. 789 456 123 6 being foward, 4 being back, 2 down, etc. 5 means no directional input. When you see "A, B, C, D" it represents a button to push. A=Weak B=Medium C=Strong D=Drive On your Xbox controller A=X, B=Y, C=B, and D=A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShinsoBEAM Report post Posted April 12, 2010 edit: Beaten edit2:ohh well here is something a bit more indepth http://www.insertcredit.com/wiki/doku.php?id=fighting_game_move_notation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shtkn Report post Posted April 12, 2010 i''m pretty sure that's not what he's asking... he's asking if numpad notation applise to both arcade controls and console pads. The answer is yes. If you were asking what the numpads mean... well there's your answer. They were also explain in EVERY SINGLE ONE of the links in the first post (except the shoryuken glossary). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tofurr Report post Posted April 12, 2010 My bad, sorry. Since I'm here I might as well ask about one. I've seen the term 'gatling' used a couple times, but was unable to find it in any of those links. What exactly does that term mean when it comes to fighting games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shtkn Report post Posted April 12, 2010 you didn't look hard enough http://www.dustloop.com/ggac/data/comsys.html normal moves cancel into normal moves in GG. Gatling is the name for this fact. In BB i believe it's called Revolver Action, but whatever, people usually refer to them as gatlings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tofurr Report post Posted April 12, 2010 I apologize, again. Thank you for the info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukianesa Drive Report post Posted April 14, 2010 the numbers represent a direction. 789 456 123 6 being foward, 4 being back, 2 down, etc. 5 means no directional input. When you see "A, B, C, D" it represents a button to push. A=Weak B=Medium C=Strong D=Drive On your Xbox controller A=X, B=Y, C=B, and D=A I see, I eliminated that theory based on 5 being no movement, so I thought, "that can't be it then." But that is probably better than just saying D, thanks. Pressure Strings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futoM4ki Report post Posted June 30, 2010 Hi, can somebody tell me please what is ment by "dj" in combo lists? Like [...] ->5B->jc->jB->dj->jB->[...] I thought it was something like jumpcancel. But what is the difference between "jc" and "dj" then? I searched for some time now, but couldn´t find out ._. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisterBadguy Report post Posted June 30, 2010 This one gets asked alot actually. "dj" or "djc" in combo notation usually refers to double jump canceling, or canceling an air normal into another jump, such as Ragna's j.c, j.d, dj, j.c, j.d ect. "sj.*" means to superjump. Also, for Ragna and Jin combos if you run into dc, DC, or [DC] it means Dash Cancel, or canceling a normal with a dash. The only other weird one I can think of at the moment is if you're looking at Sol's Sidewinder Loops, the notation nj. is used in a few. This stands for Neutral jump. Any other weird notations should be cleared up at the top of a character's combo list such as move nicknames (BBU, BK, VSD) or weird character specific commands (Carl and Ara's negative edge inputs are usually shown as ]D[ for example). EDIT: There is ONE MORE I thought of that could possibly confuse a new player. If "CH" preceeds the notation, It means that the combo can only be initiated if the leading move is a counterhit. Ex. Jin's CH 5c,6c [DC] 5c, ect. Hope that cleared everything up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
futoM4ki Report post Posted June 30, 2010 Well, it´s actually hard to search for since "dj" is to short for the search function. tyvm for your response! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sh0ryu_Repp4 Report post Posted July 30, 2010 Very helpful article, i was suprised to learn that half the terms i already know, they're just in japanese "Tachi...wha? You mean Footsies?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romanticist Report post Posted August 1, 2010 6C>JC(jc)>JC>BE When referring to this combo for Ragna, what does it mean I should do in the parenthesis? Does it mean I jump cancel after JC? Also, are parenthesis only used to refer to cancels like dash cancels? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcowski Report post Posted August 1, 2010 Yes, that (jc) means "jump cancel". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Circuitous Report post Posted August 1, 2010 That's pretty terrible formatting. 6C > jc.C > jc.C > 214C Forward C, jump cancel C, jump cancel C, Belial Edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Romanticist Report post Posted August 2, 2010 That's pretty terrible formatting. 6C > jc.C > jc.C > 214C Forward C, jump cancel C, jump cancel C, Belial Edge. I saw it from a Japanese combo vid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freelander Report post Posted August 4, 2010 That's pretty terrible formatting. 6C > jc.C > jc.C > 214C Forward C, jump cancel C, jump cancel C, Belial Edge. well yours weren't so good either the standard is usually something like 6C > jc> j.C> jc> dj.C> 214C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Circuitous Report post Posted August 4, 2010 Seems like a waste of space to have jump cancel as a separate input, not to mention repetitive. And since double-jump C isn't actually a different attack than jump C, the dj seems unnecessary as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SokoMade Report post Posted August 22, 2010 I've been a lurking for a while but I made an account to reply to this. Seems like a waste of space to have jump cancel as a separate input, not to mention repetitive. And since double-jump C isn't actually a different attack than jump C, the dj seems unnecessary as well. Sure, I agree about dj.C being kinda weird, but the jump cancel, no, that can't be a waste of space. Otherwise... I mean the question is simple: how would you tell someone where the jump is? Take any Jin combo with his air BnB - j.C, j.2C, j.2C... sometimes you can get another j.C in there; there's even one with three j.2Cs and a j.D. If I just listed those, how do you know where to jump? Sure, you could try it and figure it out on your own... but that defeats the point of notation. *~*~*~ Anyway, it's perhaps no surprise the first post I make is about notation, as I have come with thoughts that the negative edge notation from other games is insufficient to describe Arakune combos. I'll be seeing what I can do about that in Arakune boards. Hello. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Circuitous Report post Posted August 22, 2010 It would be j.C j.2C jc.2C Jump C, jump 2C, jump cancel 2C. That said, I've acquiesced and have started using JC as a separate input. It actually does make more sense that way. Now if they'd just publish the freaking guide... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooshman Report post Posted August 22, 2010 If I just listed those, how do you know where to jump? Sure, you could try it and figure it out on your own... but that defeats the point of notation. C moves (for example) don't self gatling, so the JC becomes superslous, since you have to jump, however if it's like JA>JA>JA>JA>etc, then the JC is probably necessary, just make sure they know it's jump cancel and not JC, so like J-C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites