ZONG_one Report post Posted August 6, 2010 Tsubaki still free too? :[ Lol tsubaki is free. Not for my arakune though, wtf. D: What's up with them Haku mirrors? >.> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted August 6, 2010 I wasn't worried so much about balance as something making sense. I shouldn't be able to throw Tager with Carl. That shit makes no sense. Logic has no place in a fighting game. :| Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisoSowee Report post Posted August 6, 2010 Lol tsubaki is free. Not for my arakune though, wtf. D: What's up with them Haku mirrors? >.> lol I use mu now :3 @adam HADOKEN! What was that? o_o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZONG_one Report post Posted August 6, 2010 Ahh, scrub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sindelian Report post Posted August 7, 2010 I have a question, why is it that Arakune has a full-health combo in curse mode (and plenty of possible set ups), but he's still only average tier? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Narcowski Report post Posted August 7, 2010 His non-fever mode is worse than Rachel, that's why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henaki Report post Posted August 7, 2010 also he's s tier, shhhhhhh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mundus Report post Posted August 7, 2010 People are talking like Tager is crap, he is not, nerf Bang, Litchi and Ragna and Tager should climb to at least B and thats without changing him. Now give him more damage and a long range poke and he will be awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromegaman Report post Posted August 7, 2010 People are talking like Tager is crap, he is not, nerf Bang, Litchi and Ragna and Tager should climb to at least B and thats without changing him. Now give him more damage and a long range poke and he will be awesome. Nah there's no need to Nerf Ragna. He's fine the way he is. Nerf Litchi, remove that loop of hers and reduce the damage she dishes out. Good God Litchi is fucking Broken this time around. And Tager doesn't really suck, he just sucks compared to the rest of the cast. And No. No more Damage for Tager. A poke> Yes, a long Range poke for Tager would be nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afrikaan Report post Posted August 7, 2010 Nah there's no need to Nerf Ragna. He's fine the way he is. Nerf Litchi, remove that loop of hers and reduce the damage she dishes out. Good God Litchi is fucking Broken this time around. And Tager doesn't really suck, he just sucks compared to the rest of the cast. And No. No more Damage for Tager. A poke> Yes, a long Range poke for Tager would be nice. Even as a Ragna main, I definitely think he needs a heat gain nerf and maybe double BE loops made exclusive to the corner to artifically lower his damage somewhat. And Tager does need a slight damage buff, and Bang and Litchi several damage nerfs along with stuff like Makoto's Parry loops and Tao's taunt loops. If he's gonna have to deal with the shit that inheritly comes with playing a grappler he damn well better do some of if not the most damage in the whole cast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Schme Report post Posted August 7, 2010 Nah there's no need to Nerf Ragna. He's fine the way he is. Are you telling me that 4K midscreen for little work and meter gain for a safe DP after any completed combo isn't a little too over the top? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromegaman Report post Posted August 7, 2010 Are you telling me that 4K midscreen for little work and meter gain for a safe DP after any completed combo isn't a little too over the top? He need sthe damage being the character that can get mercilessly raped by everyone except Rachel. Lowest HP. meter gain though? I do have to agree, shit is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooshman Report post Posted August 7, 2010 Ragna just needs a tone down, his damage is fine, but the fact that it can be facerolled is rather bad, BE needs a recovery and meter gain nerf, however it prorates like a motherfucker, wo maybe give it a follow up (for symmetry sake), or some other minor buff so that it isn't useless, 2C is way to good of a normal to be an FC, so nerf that, buff carnage scissors, make it overall harder to get that ridiculous 4K meterless, and remove that 5-6K meterless. Ragna overall isn't super over powered, just a couple light tone downs. alternatively, most of the characters need to adjust to the new system, Ragna, Bang, and Litchi got the good side, but Ragna is probably the only of the three that shows how the characters should be in this new system, so if the other characters adapt to this system, I see Ragna not being so OP and the other 2 more managable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danny Schme Report post Posted August 7, 2010 He need sthe damage being the character that can get mercilessly raped by everyone except Rachel. Lowest HP. meter gain though? I do have to agree, shit is ridiculous. Word. Meter gain is a strong issue for a few characters really Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitevoid Report post Posted August 7, 2010 how the fuck is ara better than lambda and haz? explanation! I demand it! lolz. I'm not the only one that puts Ara at A tier. People called me crazy when I suggested this. Just to be clear, I'm saying Mu has the advantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Master Bigode Report post Posted August 8, 2010 2C is way to good of a normal to be an FC, so nerf that I fail to see how a 12 frame move with bad range and horrible priority is too good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooshman Report post Posted August 8, 2010 I fail to see how a 12 frame move with bad range and horrible priority is too good. +1 on block.... compared to... say, 17 startup and -10 on block. it's not a good normal, but it's a great FC. one of the fastest FC's (second to Jayoku and falling fang) and the safest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MisoSowee Report post Posted August 8, 2010 litchi 6a is +1 :[ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spirit Juice Report post Posted August 8, 2010 Stop being a scrub and mashing during Ragna block strings and you should never get hit by FC 2C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.X.I.S. Report post Posted August 8, 2010 Ragna just needs a tone down, his damage is fine, but the fact that it can be facerolled is rather bad, BE needs a recovery and meter gain nerf, however it prorates like a motherfucker, wo maybe give it a follow up (for symmetry sake), or some other minor buff so that it isn't useless, 2C is way to good of a normal to be an FC, so nerf that, buff carnage scissors, make it overall harder to get that ridiculous 4K meterless, and remove that 5-6K meterless. Ragna overall isn't super over powered, just a couple light tone downs. alternatively, most of the characters need to adjust to the new system, Ragna, Bang, and Litchi got the good side, but Ragna is probably the only of the three that shows how the characters should be in this new system, so if the other characters adapt to this system, I see Ragna not being so OP and the other 2 more managable. your fucking dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooshman Report post Posted August 8, 2010 you're fucking dumb. thank you, that means alot to me, especially from you.Stop being a scrub and mashing during Ragna block strings and you should never get hit by FC 2C. actually, I rarely run into Ragna's that use 2C, but when they do... it's a high reward with no real risk, if they don't hit you they're still at +1, if they do hit.... you can eat up to 6K..... and if they have 50 heat..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Afrikaan Report post Posted August 8, 2010 your fucking dumb. >your. On a serious note, I think I find it more on the side of some character's damages being low than Ragna's being too high with a few exceptions. Let's not forget that matches in CS already take forever, we don't want to just nerf everyone to Rachel level damage and have the game become (more of) a timeout fest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mundus Report post Posted August 8, 2010 And Tager doesn't really suck, he just sucks compared to the rest of the cast. And No. No more Damage for Tager. A poke> Yes, a long Range poke for Tager would be nice. You do know that Tagers damage is crap outside of throws and magna tech wheel (requires meter) right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Knight Report post Posted August 8, 2010 Arakune is the 3rd best character Ragna is not S tier Discuss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-Ladon- Report post Posted August 8, 2010 Arakune is the 3rd best character Ragna is not S tier Discuss. There used to be an awesome set of games called Lemmings, I always enjoyed it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites