Sol.Badguy Report post Posted July 31, 2010 Ah ok thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firekid2 Report post Posted July 31, 2010 Question. If I hit someone in the air with j.5D or 6D, what are something I can follow up with? I apologize if this has been discussed before, and if it has, a link to the related post(s) would be awesomesauce. EDIT: Wait... Should this have gone in the FAQ thread? If so, could a mod move it to the correct place please? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted August 1, 2010 6D can be followed up with jB > djCxN > dj214B It's the same with j5D unless it was used after a double jump, in which case all you can really do is jB > j214B Also, if they are close enough to the ground, you can do jB > djCxN > (land) 2C > 4D~D > jCxN > djCxN > dj214B NOTE: In some cases, the timing of the jump from jB > djCxN can be tricky as you still have the forward momentum from the D chain followup. I find that it helps to hold down jump during the move's hitstun. EDIT: Oh yeah, you can follow 6D with 623D a lot of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Milln Report post Posted August 1, 2010 Well, if you hit with 6D, you can D pull up there and cut them a lot OR you can 6D again to adjust and then 623D to slam them into a wall and combo from there. j.5D? I'd like to know that, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geist Report post Posted August 1, 2010 I didn't notice the character specific throw combos anywhere Tager: B+C, 6D~A, 6D~A, 623D, 7j.6D~D, 2C, 4D~A, 4D~D, j.214B# pretty easy and straighforward Taokaka: B+C, 6D~A, 6D, 623D 8/9j.6D~D, 2C, 4D~A, 4D~D, j.214B# have to cancel 6D into 623D late, if you try to 6D~A, 623D she'll be too low...couldn't get the j.6D to work when I jumped back, but up and forward were fine Rachel: B+C,(slight delay) 6D~A, 623D, 8/9j.6D~D, 2C, 4D~A, 4D~D, j.214B# she flies far and fast...again same as tao, jumping forward seemed to work better I remember getting it on hakumen before, but if I remember it's extrememly hard to do...and probably not worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireryda Report post Posted August 2, 2010 More like eclipse should make a section for character specific follow-ups ;P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fohstick Report post Posted August 2, 2010 the general rule of thumb for any character specific move is that any combo following 623D can usually be continued with j.6D~D rather than ending it with dashing 3C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Axle_the_red Report post Posted August 2, 2010 Just a quick question... The BnB we've been seeing for so long (3c -> 214d-> c -> 2c -> air combo with loads of j.c xN) is less damaging than the listed combo that has 2 4d chains in them and ends with a 214b, correct? Just wondering why the combo we've seen a lot of has a much easier version that does more damage...or if I'm mistaken... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted August 2, 2010 If you mean what you've been seeing online, then it's possible that a lot of Hazama players simply don't know his BnBs (or at least, not the most efficient variations). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sahgren Report post Posted August 2, 2010 I'm new to Hazama and having trouble with his BnB of 5b > 3c > 214d~c > 5c > [j.c]x5 > jc > [j.c]x3 > j.214b. Every time before I get in the jump cancel he tends to hit the ground. Are there any ideas to what I might be doing wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted August 2, 2010 Just be sure to jump when that 5th hit connects. Also, you should have no problem getting all 5 hits on the second series either. On another note: you may want to upgrade to 5B > 3C > 214D~C > 5C > jCx5 > [land] 2C > 4D~D > j214B# j214B# = jCx5 > djCx5 > dj214B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Janiekenzu Report post Posted August 2, 2010 Can any Good Hazama players reccomend good Block string with hazama and Strategy's Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusty Report post Posted August 2, 2010 EASY! STEP 1: RUN AWAY! (You may want to use Oroboros because hazama can't run) STEP 2: THROW RANDOM CHAINS STEP 3: KEEP RUNNING AROUND THROWING CHAINS STEP 5: JAYOKU HOUTENJIN!!!!!!!!!!!! STEP 6: TIME OUT (WIN) STEP 7: PROCEED TO NEXT MATCH AND BEGIN TROLLING SOME MOAR! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sahgren Report post Posted August 2, 2010 Just be sure to jump when that 5th hit connects. Also, you should have no problem getting all 5 hits on the second series either. On another note: you may want to upgrade to 5B > 3C > 214D~C > 5C > jCx5 > [land] 2C > 4D~D > j214B#] j214B# = jCx5 > djCx5 > dj214B Guess I'll just work on getting the feel for it then. I'll work on the combo you mentioned once I can get the j214B# down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maker Report post Posted August 2, 2010 I don't think this has been posted before but I feel any Hazama player should take note. In any combo which requires 6D~A, 623D, 66, 3C > whatever if the 6D~A can only be done once on said character, put a slight delay in between the 6D~A and 623D, it should still snag most but leave them higher and give you more time for the 66, 3C follow up. This should also increase the chances of landing a Houtenjin if desired into more damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fohstick Report post Posted August 3, 2010 EASY! STEP 1: RUN AWAY! (You may want to use Oroboros because hazama can't run) STEP 2: THROW RANDOM CHAINS STEP 3: KEEP RUNNING AROUND THROWING CHAINS STEP 5: JAYOKU HOUTENJIN!!!!!!!!!!!! STEP 6: TIME OUT (WIN) STEP 7: PROCEED TO NEXT MATCH AND BEGIN TROLLING SOME MOAR! pfft. the godlike strategy, at least according to Zakiyama, is to IB everything until you have 100heat, and then perform a double jayoku houtenjin 8k combo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeonCrusader Report post Posted August 3, 2010 Question about a corner combo: 5B, 3C, 214D~C, dash under, 5C, 2C, 4D~A, 623D, 2B, 5C, j214B# I'm whiffing 623D on a lot of the smaller characters. Is this character specific or am I just doing it wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted August 3, 2010 Well, if delaying the 5C doesn't help, then it probably can't be done on smaller characters. EDIT: Actually, if you eliminate the 4D for the smaller characters and just go straight to the Jakou, then it'll probably connect. That's what I do when I 2A someone trying to roll out of the corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arifureta Report post Posted August 3, 2010 If you're doing the corner combo, going straight to Jakou slams them behind you and resets/drops the combo. 4D~D on characters with smaller hitboxes (i.e. everyone not in the 5 5C OTG characters) is pretty situational in corner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumeroGaijin Report post Posted August 4, 2010 Here is a combo that works on Tager when his back is to the corner. 214D~B FC > (dash) > 2D > 2D> Astral works lol. You can actually do a lot of things with this. I have been able to do 2D~A > 2D~A > 2D~A > 4D~D > [j.C x 5] > JC > [j.C x 5] > J214B for trashy damage but I think you get like 36 heat.....(i can't remember). Also you can do the astral during any of the 1st and 2nd 2D's. I have not checked the 3rd 2D and I have not checked the 4D. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlolxlolx Report post Posted August 4, 2010 Why would you do 2D~A>2D~A>>2D~A>4D~D when you can go 6D~A>6D~A>623D>j.6D~D>2C>j.214B# for better damage and meter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NumeroGaijin Report post Posted August 4, 2010 The combo I mentioned above is just a unique combo that I thought was slightly worth noting because it is possible and you can Astral off of the starting parts off it. It is what I like to call an impractical combo that is uniquely possible. I wasn't going for the most highest damage or meter with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xlolxlolx Report post Posted August 5, 2010 lol you can astral off a 3c, but it's a waste of 100 heat to look at CGI from 1999 when you can do a cool looking jayoku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piskooooo Report post Posted August 6, 2010 Don't hate on the PS1 Snakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eclipse Report post Posted August 6, 2010 Yeah, I love the PS1 snakes. And if you get lucky, some of his Astral Quotes are awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites