JohnnyboySP Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Yes it works for Extend. Thanks. Time to practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyboySP Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Well that wasn't so bad. I can pull it off inconsistently. Once I get the BnB down what should I practice adding to it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BladeOfJustice7 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Which bnbs do you speak of precisely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Learn combos off counters, learn corner combos, learn throw combos, and just practice a decent go to combo for each star so you have something you can pull off based on how much meter you have. Oh, you should learn the other basic BnB, which is [starter] > 623AA > falling j.2C > 2C > j.2A > IAD j.2A > j.C. You can probably fit in a j.B before each j.2A, but that's the basic form of it. The important part is getting the hang of that 623AA > falling j.2C > 2C link. I might as well just post the rough version of the combo thread I have now and let everyone give their input to update it rather than keep holding off to add more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyboySP Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Which bnbs do you speak of precisely? The one in the OP. If there's more I haven't exposed myself to them yet. Still in the process of learning how to learn this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BladeOfJustice7 Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Someone should record Hakumen's bnb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Oh. I thought you meant the combos in the last few posts. The one in the OP should work too though. But yeah, it still works. That's another basic one that all Haku players should know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyboySP Report post Posted March 29, 2012 Learn combos off counters, learn corner combos, learn throw combos, and just practice a decent go to combo for each star so you have something you can pull off based on how much meter you have. Oh, you should learn the other basic BnB, which is [starter] > 623AA > falling j.2C > 2C > j.2A > IAD j.2A > j.C. You can probably fit in a j.B before each j.2A, but that's the basic form of it. The important part is getting the hang of that 623AA > falling j.2C > 2C link. So practice and more practice. I'll try to fit as much of that as I can into practice sessions. Thanks. As far as learning which attacks function as starters is that information available or do I have to figure it out on my own? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted March 29, 2012 I'm compiling it now. But for most combos you can use his As and Bs and Cs as the starters. As in 2A, 5A, 2B, 5B, 5C and sometimes 3C CH. You can experiment with 4C as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyboySP Report post Posted March 29, 2012 I'm compiling it now. But for most combos you can use his As and Bs and Cs as the starters. As in 2A, 5A, 2B, 5B, 5C and sometimes 3C CH. You can experiment with 4C as well. Alright, thanks again. This will really help me out, I appreciate it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted March 29, 2012 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?13856-EX-Hakumen-Extend-Combo-Guide&p=1299938#post1299938 I posted the Extend combo thread here. Get at it, everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone Drum Report post Posted March 31, 2012 can someone explain how safe the renka1-kishuu-stuff mixup is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted March 31, 2012 None of Haku's mixups are that safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kotokot Report post Posted April 1, 2012 can someone explain how safe the renka1-kishuu-stuff mixup is? Renka have 1F gap before 2nd hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone Drum Report post Posted April 1, 2012 it's not the renka1 to kishuu gap that I am questioning. It's the kishuu gap into anything else. It seems like it is easy as pie to bait the kishuu and counter before the followup after kishuu, yet I see this particular mixup used so often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted April 1, 2012 After I posted, I remembered that it has more invincibility. I think it might go through DPs and such now, so that would make it more useful if they try to mash out. But normal moves would still hit it. For Hakumen you just have to condition them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spark Report post Posted April 1, 2012 236B(1) > 236A is +0 on block, and -3 on IB. So characters like Hazama, or Hakumen can 2A/5A afterwards and always win, unless you frame trap them with 623AA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BladeOfJustice7 Report post Posted April 1, 2012 Nice info there Spark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stone Drum Report post Posted April 2, 2012 236B(1) > 236A is +0 on block, and -3 on IB. So characters like Hazama, or Hakumen can 2A/5A afterwards and always win, unless you frame trap them with 623AA. so if you do a followup after the kishuu, (which I see you yourself do a lot) you are at an even greater disadvantage, correct? How does the renka1-kishuu-FOLLOWUP mixup go so mostly unpunished? And I assume you simply meant kishuu, not 236a. Unless you can do a kishuu somehow with 236a after a 236b motion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mAc Chaos Report post Posted April 2, 2012 They might be afraid of getting hit by 623AA, perhaps. I guess they aren't mashing hard enough. :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spark Report post Posted April 3, 2012 Yeah I meant 623A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wander Report post Posted June 14, 2012 Just curious, if you only hit with the 2nd hit of 6b, is frame advantage (-4) the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toanenadiz Report post Posted June 14, 2012 Just curious, if you only hit with the 2nd hit of 6b, is frame advantage (-4) the same? Yes. The frame data is actually showing what happens when you hit with the 2nd hit and it doesn't matter if the first hit happened since the blockstun of the 2nd hit is applied once it hits the opponent. It is similar to Lambda's 4B or Jin's 5B. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wander Report post Posted June 14, 2012 Thanks for the info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinobispectre Report post Posted August 21, 2012 Sorry but as I learn I will probably be coming back here posting a lot, but what does wtv mean? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
