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BBCS2 FINAL SHOWDOWN: Loketest 5, Nov. 15th Discussion

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I find it funny that EVERY Rachel player on the site here was totally frightened about even the possibility of renerfing some of the stuff she was given.

Then again, considering what happened with CS1, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Mmmm hmmm hmmm. Yeah. Guess I was flipping out a little too hardcore there. I just really want to see a top tier Rachel once more.
It is a bit silly to get upset about the undoing of a buff considering the plethora of buffs she still has. :]

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well, there is still the changes that they made to his magnetic mechanics, but from what i read so far, i feel that tager probably would be suck terribad again :gonk:, only time will tell

Yeah he is still gonna suck and I am still maining him...oh joy.

@ Uri when people get hit by 2C they normally don't try to jump out...they are more likely to try and punish than to jump out so its meh, thus why 2C>3C is only good for primer breaking, I honestly don't see a reason for someone to mash jump when they block a 2C, I mean they see the frame traps and anti jump he has, not like he can cancel into a 360 with 2C.

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I'm still unsure if it's j.2C, hiago.

This seems the most accurate, and it says j.C.

If that's the case, I'm happy.

I've always wanted Carl to have Arakune j.C.

:]

I dunnoooo, I could swear it was j.2C.

Well, I hope it's j.C then.

Actually, about that Brio change... Would that be a nerf or a buff?

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It is a bit silly to get upset about the undoing of a buff considering the plethora of buffs she still has. :]

Exactly, still curious about the "auto-slide" thing for 5cc, but methinks we lost our current mid-screen bnbs. xD

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Yeah he is still gonna suck and I am still maining him...oh joy.

make it 2 :kitty::yaaay::vbang:

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New Rachel Updates? They had stars next to them:

+ CSから全体的な火力の微妙な増加(ロケテからは弱体化)

+ 5B>2B追加(インカムでループが不可能になった)

- 前ロケテまであったJ2Cのjcが削除

I'm going to guess that the last one says j.2C can no longer be jump canceled. :v:

No legitimate translation for this yet? Seems like we can infer what it means, but I'd like to be sure.

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A little bit pissed off that there are no Noel changes listed. Proves how few of us there are, we can't even get any inside info.

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I dunnoooo, I could swear it was j.2C.

Well, I hope it's j.C then.

Actually, about that Brio change... Would that be a nerf or a buff?

Depending on the untechable time, it should be a buff.

On non CH you can't really get much right now anyway, so pushback will be nice.

If CH is still longer untechable time, comboing might be harder because of pushback, but vivace/backdash/regular dash can usually cover that gap.

:]

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Tager

+ 22D does 100 damage

+ 2C>3C added

- no follow up combo from regular throw

lol arcsys. what the hell is this, giving people sprinkles instead of steak.

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Taokaka

+ 5CH > 6C works

- 3C can only be cancelled with distortion drive (confirmation from previous loketest)

Fucking useless buff since 6C doesn't wallbounce anymore.

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Fucking useless buff since 6C doesn't wallbounce anymore.

Probably good buff, since last time I heard, tauntloops are a joke anyway.

Has this changed or something?

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It should be good to get into that all glorious vagina corner.

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Tager

+ 22D does 100 damage

+ 2C>3C added

- no follow up combo from regular throw

lol arcsys. what the hell is this, giving people sprinkles instead of steak.

Still waiting for those untechable 360s in combos.

When does the 100 damage deal (and proration)? Because RC shenanigans.

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+5Bの判定が強化され、対空でも使えるように

+C風からD剣が繋がり、節約コンができるように

-JDのゲージ上昇がCSと同じに

No legit TL on these Tsubaki changes, yet? = /

Google tL lulzily says:

+5 B decision has been enhanced, but to use air

D + C connection from the wind sword, be able to save computer

CS-JD gauge equivalent to an increase

So broken, we can save our computer midmatch!

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Probably good buff, since last time I heard, tauntloops are a joke anyway.

Has this changed or something?

Even without the Tauntloop, I imagine 6C would be a great combo starter, 5C > 6C would probably be as good as Noel's CH 5C > 3C.

I'm not sure how nerfed Tao's 6C is now though, but could it be possible to follow up in the corner?

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Probably good buff, since last time I heard, tauntloops are a joke anyway.

Has this changed or something?

Tauntloops can be a joke now, but probably the first taunt still has 110% proration...then maybe combos like 5B->6A->JC->2D~B->taunt->214D->2D~B->5C/22C still works unless the 2D changes fuck this. But 6A doesn't hit Hazama, Mu and Tsubaki crouching and since 3C doesn't combo anymore...

Also I don't see how 5C CH->6C can be useful except for coner combo...Also CS 5C isn't as good as CT 5C was.

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Tsubaki

+5Bの判定が強化され、対空でも使えるように

+C風からD剣が繋がり、節約コンができるように

-JDのゲージ上昇がCSと同じに

+ 5B is stronger, can be used as anti air.

+ 22C > 214D is possible, can use this for a shorter combo. (?)

- j.D's charging speed is the same as it was in CS1.

Edited by HiagoX

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Bang

* 5A is still good

Moral of this story, stop complaining about Bang's 5A.

The move went through:

CT location tests>Final Game

*took a slight nerf from CT to CS by not being able to gatling into itself or whatever*

CS location tests>Final Game

and now 5 CS2 location tests and still is what it is.

Obviously if they haven't changed it after all this time, it isn't something worth complaining about. Unless you live in America apparently because the Japanese don't seem to have a problem with it that's worth fixing.

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+5Bの判定が強化され、対空でも使えるように

+C風からD剣が繋がり、節約コンができるように

-JDのゲージ上昇がCSと同じに

+ 5B is stronger, can be used as anti air.

+ C "Wind" > D "Sword" is possible, can result in a shorter combo (?)

- j.D's charging speed is the same as it was in CS1.

Thank you so much.

Now, if only I could figure out what that second one means. ;_;

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Has anyone posted about Ragna's new 22C changes? I would translate them but I feel like someone already did.

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Thank you so much.

Now, if only I could figure out what that second one means. ;_;

I think that it is 236C > 22D or 214D. I also editted the second part of the change, take a look.

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+ CSから全体的な火力の微妙な増加(ロケテからは弱体化)

+ 5B>2B追加(インカムでループが不可能になった)

- 前ロケテまであったJ2Cのjcが削除

Anything to comment on w/r/t these Rachel changes, Hiago?

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