BBCS2 FINAL SHOWDOWN: Loketest 5, Nov. 15th Discussion

[Mumm-Ra]

Man the IB change is too good. Now if only the character specific changes were as good as the general changes...

[Henaki]

HOLY SHIT IB IS HARD NOW.

what are you doing arcsystems? are you sure this isnt guilty gear?

[AlterGenesis]

frc next

k thx bye

[Andarel]

HOLY SHIT IB IS HARD NOW.

Did they decrease the window?

[ZONG_one]

No. Just made it less rewarding.

I made the GG comparison when they took out sweep otg's henaki.

Good shit, lol.

[farranpoison]

HOLY SHIT IB IS HARD NOW.

what are you doing arcsystems? are you sure this isnt guilty gear?

Suddenly, they give us Dusts and GG's Burst system.

[Reioumu]

Suddenly, they give us Dusts and GG's Burst system.

Suddenly, barrier guard costs meter

[ZONG_one]

ok everyone, we get it.

fuck man..

you guys are too late on this one.

[Alzarath]

wait wtf

bb is slowly becoming a better game?

Poppycock! POPPYCOCK I TELLS YA!

[Andarel]

Boo, "is hard now" =/= "is less rewarding." Bah.

Secretly ASW screws around with all of these changes before the final release.

[Henaki]

wait i thought they lowered the amount of frames that requires????

nerfing IB advantage is the single best buff tager could possibly get.

edit: for the record that makes IBing A sledge -5, making it basically UNPUNISHABLE. holy shit that is honestly one of the biggest buffs they could give tager.

Edited November 18, 2010 by Henaki

[LunaKage]

wait i thought they lowered the amount of frames that requires????

nerfing IB advantage is the single best buff tager could possibly get.

You were just talking about that, then they announced the IB change.

[ZONG_one]

Boo, "is hard now" =/= "is less rewarding." Bah.

Secretly ASW screws around with all of these changes before the final release.

IB is now less rewarding.

It's not harder.

What is it, something like 8F you have for IB?

That remains the same.

Only thing is now it's +2/3F instead of +5F.

[Henaki]

yep, thats a better change than the ease of use so whatever.

tager players, rejoice. we now have repeateable pressure.

[Andarel]

I know, Zong. I was wondering if Henaki knew something we didn't (read the post I quoted a page or two ago from him).

Can't wait to try a few characters in CS2 now. It's like Tager gets comparatively good damage again, with bonus blockstrings and no CT god tier.

[killionaire]

Henaki's shitting his pants at hearing the IB changes.

Welp.. I wouldn't see problems with anything that makes Tager better.

[ZONG_one]

:]

"Since we can't change Tager to make him a good character, let's change the Game to make Tager a good character."

:P

[KayEff]

Everyone's shitting [their] pants at hearing the IB changes.

Fixed for accuracy.

[Andarel]

Secretly, CSII is just Tager: the Game. I think basically every system change helps him significantly, and it's all-around a good thing. Does he have any way to get mediocre damage off 5A yet, though?

[Henaki]

:]

"Since we can't change Tager to make him a good character, let's change the Game to make Tager a good character."

:P

yeah pretty much.

also the IB change + the new volt charge -> 720 change means tager effectively has a similar power to "IB" certain things, while no other character can really do that to him. plus this makes A sledge viable (i would believe), meaning that tager has a guessing game with repeatable pressure. it isnt potemkin good but it is also meter free so...

that alone i think just turned tager from "worlds biggest gimmick" to "character with fundamental tools to win very poorly with a shitload of gimmicks".

if these changes stay in, sans some colossal fuck up on arcsys part, tager will be a capable character.

[Andarel]

How fast does volt charge come out? Don't remember.

[Gorehound]

IB nerf means that Makoto's blockstrings can't be punished as easily as before.

This is good news.

Same with Tsubaki!

I'm going have a lot of fun with her 5B!

[Reioumu]

The IB change just made this game better.

But I don't agree with a lot of character changes

[Emerald]

The IB change just made this game better.

But I don't agree with a lot of character changes

When it comes to those I end up being lost. At first I was thinking Makoto was doomed but with all the changes together against the rest of the cast, I am no longer sure. Just have to wait and see. Though it is always sad when someone reports that a group of players looks depressed at the location test (Looking at Tao players).

[shtkn]

wow what a change (for the better). i'm a bit worried that some things might be too strong on block now, but i guess we'll see...

also to everyone who wants this game to be guilty gear... why wait? go play guilty gear! might as well hope that SSF4 arcade edition plays like 3S or CVS2.