Dorian Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Sup, I'm learning CS2 Makoto while I can't play as Noel. Can we be friends? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 16, 2011 I do not main Makoto. I just need to know some common block strings and/or mix-ups Makoto players use so I can work on my defense against her. ... ... ... ... The we do BnB's as block strings: 2A>5B>5CC>6BC 2A>5B>5CC>6BC>214A~C~A Good block strings: 2A xN dash another block string 2A x2 > 2B > 5B > 6A > 6B 2A > 5B > 5CC > 214A~A > 2B/6B/throw 2A > 5B > 6A > 5B > jump cancel Better block strings: nope.avi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiagoX Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Sup, I'm learning CS2 Makoto while I can't play as Noel. Can we be friends? Nope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dorian Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Nope. Just as well, I don't like nuts :< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lusterleon Report post Posted May 16, 2011 Dang! So cold, so cold. Could of been nicer Hiago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St1ckBuG Report post Posted May 16, 2011 I know someone has probably already put work into this (coughOMNIcough): what's the best combo from orb oki tech roll punish? No one rolls in JAPANESE MATCH VIDEOS, so I don't think I've ever actually seen the full combo. Anyone have a link or figure one out yet? I'm guessing it's just a simple 5A/5B > 6A > 2D? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ronove Report post Posted May 16, 2011 I know someone has probably already put work into this (coughOMNIcough): what's the best combo from orb oki tech roll punish? No one rolls in JAPANESE MATCH VIDEOS, so I don't think I've ever actually seen the full combo. Anyone have a link or figure one out yet? I'm guessing it's just a simple 5A/5B > 6A > 2D? I've seen a couple videos recently from combos starting from corner orb oki, and yeah they started with orb>5A>6A>2D3 I need to dig in my video folder and see if I can directly link them here, but they basically followed a similar pattern to CH 6A corner combos ... 2A > 5B > 5CC > 214A~A > 2B/6B/throw Even better for easier hitconfirm: 2A > 5B > 5CC > 214A~A > 2A > 2B/6B/Throw mixup gotta make use of her 2A's awesome reach and speed as much as we can Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 16, 2011 I've seen a couple videos recently from combos starting from corner orb oki, and yeah they started with orb>5A>6A>2D3 I need to dig in my video folder and see if I can directly link them here, but they basically followed a similar pattern to CH 6A corner combos What I'm using off either 5A or 5B after orb oki is 236A > 5B > 6A > 2D > 2C > 214B~D > 2C > 214A~D > 44 6A > 5D > 2C > 214B~B > jc j.D > 2C > 214B~B > j.623A~D(2)> 236A Even better for easier hitconfirm: 2A > 5B > 5CC > 214A~A > 2A > 2B/6B/Throw mixup gotta make use of her 2A's awesome reach and speed as much as we can I should use 2A more often. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jourdal Report post Posted May 16, 2011 ... ... ... ... The we do BnB's as block strings: 2A>5B>5CC>6BC 2A>5B>5CC>6BC>214A~C~A Good block strings: 2A xN dash another block string 2A x2 > 2B > 5B > 6A > 6B 2A > 5B > 5CC > 214A~A > 2B/6B/throw 2A > 5B > 6A > 5B > jump cancel Better block strings: nope.avi Okay glad to know I'm on the right track. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vibe Report post Posted May 17, 2011 What's the best/combo way to practice 623~D wiffing in practice mode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 17, 2011 for 623C~D whiff you should practice off CH 623C~D whiff and try to 5A > 6A (not against Makoto) For j.623C~D do 2C > 214B~B > jc delay j.B > j.623C~D whiff A little advice, try to whiff during the start of the descent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vibe Report post Posted May 17, 2011 For j.623C~D do 2C > 214B~B > jc delay j.B > j.623C~D whiff I should try to follow up with 5A, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 17, 2011 5B actually, even better if you have enough time to jump and j.a/b to make sure you're timing it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HIGEKING42 Report post Posted May 17, 2011 how fast is the 5b Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 17, 2011 9 frames Both 5B and 5C got a speed buff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkusArx Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Oh my god. Just got done going through most of Makoto's Challenge Mode, and it feels like the day I first bought her. <3 Loving the new buffs and combos. A lot easier to do than doing Comet Cannon Stuff and Double Lightning Arrows on stick (Since I got it recently). I'm still going to have to get down the Comet Cannon dash-up down consistently, but that'll come pretty quick, I imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukikaze Report post Posted May 17, 2011 5D>66>2C seems to have got quite alot tighter but 2C>214B>JB>JD has gotten so much easier. 214A-CCCCC>5A>6A>2D was that always possible? My main question is: I'V seen 2366A-D used as a corner pickup in alot of JP vids, which moves can it be used after? Also whats Maks best corner combo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St1ckBuG Report post Posted May 17, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B11Fj0MMzcg#t=41m24s Is this Jin only? I'm at work so I can't check :< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seyu Report post Posted May 17, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B11Fj0MMzcg#t=41m24s Is this Jin only? I'm at work so I can't check :< i only tested it on a few chars, but it seems to wors fine for most of them, even lambda and platinum, except carl though. I suppose you mean the 66>2C>236A~D part, since the rest is just the RCd corona upper into 2C. its damn fun though.(standart version for this combo with PF ender goes for about 4.5K) 5D>66>2C seems to have got quite alot tighter but 2C>214B>JB>JD has gotten so much easier. 214A-CCCCC>5A>6A>2D was that always possible? My main question is: I'V seen 2366A-D used as a corner pickup in alot of JP vids, which moves can it be used after? Also whats Maks best corner combo. you think it got tighter? i always had problems with 66>2C after 5D in CS1, but now you can buffer it far in advance and the dash still comes out. with 236A~D pickup i guess you mean the normal combos and not the oki setup. actually you can use it after almost anything drive related in the corner. it also always works after a 2C, so potentially you can do it whenever you want, even midscreen. list: brackets mean optional 5D>66>2C>cannon 2D>66>(2C)>cannon jD>66>(2C)>cannon 214B~B>dj>jD>(66)>(2C)>cannon 214A~D doesnt work 214B~D>(2C)>cannon 3C>2C>cannon thats about it i think. maybe look into the vid section, theres a combo vid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JammyKuradoberi Report post Posted May 17, 2011 "Omni, have you tried PF combo starters yet? Is it still possible to do 150 meter combos with stuff like 5CC>PF or 6C/PF or 2C>PF?" What is PF again? You mean particle? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiagoX Report post Posted May 17, 2011 Particle Flare (236236D) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exciel Report post Posted May 17, 2011 The charge timing between Xbox and PS3 versions is pretty noticeable... for me at least. 360's feel very brief and quick while PS3's feel more like CS Makoto's charges. Seems to be due to PS3 version being quicker so my charge for like BBS is a bit early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmniSScythe Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Just tried her on the PS3 myself, seems to be the same charge timing for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Exciel Report post Posted May 18, 2011 Could be that I use different sticks between consoles but I feel about a frame or two's difference. I'll just have to adjust to PS3's since I'm on there more anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
