TITANIUM BEAST!!! Report post Posted September 26, 2006 I don't even think he's that gimpy compared to "the rest" of the cast, he just has bad matchups with the stronger characters because he is fundamentally lacking. Honestly, I think he's better than most of the characters he gets lumped with like Venom, Dizzy and Eddie. The way level 3 is working in the AC beta right now is ridiculous. Level 3 BHB to level 3 BHB to level 2 BHB? Two level 3 BHBs should be MORE than enough to get the other guy to flashing, especially if you use normal attacks between them to pump guard balance even higher. This gives him guaranteed CH-based 50/50 mixups that can then lead to some ridiculous aircombo which would end with a level 2 BRP for knockdown and repeat. My only idea is that they somehow think Slash Back will compensate for stuff like this and people will be able to escape that kind of ridiculous shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedBeard Report post Posted September 26, 2006 Oh I haven't actually checked out the AC Order Sol, I was talking about just changes from Slash I'd like to see. But from what you described, yes that is overpowered bullshit. I'll have to check out some of the AC vids. :p However, I disagree with you about Venom/Eddie being worse than OS, especially Venom. I do think Dizzy is indeed worse than him though. That's just from my observations though and it's more of an opinion/thing to agree to disagree on I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
低姿勢 Report post Posted September 27, 2006 wait eddie what...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HamsterJohn Report post Posted September 27, 2006 wait eddie what...... He sux, that's all u need to know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lazreal Report post Posted September 27, 2006 I was just getting used to all the limitations of HOS sucking Assickles, Now he's gonna be exploding all across the stage. Was that FB move in the vid from his charge or just standing position? and Did LV2 623.HS have greater untechable time? i couldn't make out the beat' but they fell to the ground Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatred Edge Report post Posted September 28, 2006 If HOS can maintain Lvl 3 but the gauge drains...how will Dragon Install work? Also since HOS has fafnir does Sol have a Rock It w/ wallbounce to replace the of lost fafnir? I've noticed that ARC is smart( to a degree) If Hos can remain on Lvl 3 can he Storm Viper Lvl3 to Tyrant Rave? If he can, he will burn the bitches!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrir Report post Posted September 28, 2006 Order-Sol does not have Dragon Install. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceirnian Report post Posted September 29, 2006 Yeah he does, level 3 super that takes full tension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenrir Report post Posted September 29, 2006 Oh, that one. I'm guessing it'll work the same way, its hard enough to pull off as it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slep Report post Posted September 30, 2006 It is possible to Charge Cancel moves now to reduce recovery. Looks cool. Maybe it's possible to 2D, charge cancel, K, S... One guy tried this really hard today, K hit OTG every time, but maybe with proper timing... Basically, you can go from no Charge to level 3 in about the same time as Jam’s power-up special takes to execute. Not true in the last test. Only like half of one level in the same time as Jam's... That sucks =( And 2D looks almost as long as Chipp's (longer than Sol's). Frankly speaking, Order Sol still doesn't look good comparing to other characters... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_ground Report post Posted October 1, 2006 Not true in the last test. Only like half of one level in the same time as Jam's... That sucks =( That really sucks(( And who knows something about speed of loosing charge meter? Half of level per 5-7 secons of slower? Does overdrives instantly eats all the meter? (i.e. can I do something stupid, but beautiful, like combo lv3 SF and lv3 TR? Many light and fire... I like it )) ) And 2D looks almost as long as Chipp's (longer than Sol's). Yea... dreams becomes reality )) Frankly speaking, Order Sol still doesn't look good comparing to other characters... But... he is cool anyway)) Dance of light and fire... style dress... at least I like HOS because of this things )) And those, who disagree this... like said one of my friends in russian expression, "idut v hui" )) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slep Report post Posted October 1, 2006 And who knows something about speed of loosing charge meter? Half of level per 5-7 secons of slower? It decreases gradually if you use lv2/3 moves, otherwise it doesn't decrease. Can't describe the exact speed, not so slow, not so fast =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Report post Posted October 1, 2006 Have you actually played at the loketest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slep Report post Posted October 2, 2006 Yes, but I used Eddie, 'cause there were a lot of Order Sol players, and only one Ogawa for Eddie... [offtop] like said one of my friends in russian expression, "idut v hui" Are you russian? Do I know you? And correct phrase is "idut na hui", really insulting one =)) [/offtop] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoBoBOBR Report post Posted October 2, 2006 zasheku =P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted October 2, 2006 Yes, but I used Eddie, 'cause there were a lot of Order Sol players, and only one Ogawa for Eddie... [offtop] Are you russian? Do I know you? And correct phrase is "idut na hui", really insulting one =)) [/offtop] Yo, sry for asking, but could you try to get us more visual material from location tests?:P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slep Report post Posted October 2, 2006 I even didn't take my camera - there were "No Photo" signs on each plasma and cabinet. Saw guys spying with cell-phones though, hope there will be some videos in the near future... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted October 2, 2006 Try the excuse "Some euros and americans are interested in these betas", it might work:P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Report post Posted October 3, 2006 Won't work, they're Japanese. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxbenoit Report post Posted October 4, 2006 Find Justice and threaten to take em out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hatred Edge Report post Posted October 6, 2006 HOS needs range modifications. Using Gunblaze to move in on the enemy isn't 100% safe. Considering how fast GG is, a player could mess up his Gunblaze with some skill. AC might give him some help but his is a good character anyway. I really hope his improvements do help his mid-range game but hopefully doesn't overpower him too much. HOS should be able switch levels on the Charge meter to create more diverse combos. No more of this Lvl3> Lvl1 shit. More LVL 3> Lvl2> Lvl1>Lvl2 combos! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Report post Posted October 6, 2006 You never use Gun Blaze to move in on people. You use it as a wakeup/defensive/trap move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zer0kage Report post Posted October 6, 2006 I dunno if you have seen the Doppelganger CV but is 6P to lvl2 Gblaze really worth it other than for flash? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted October 6, 2006 if it's midscreen: maybe. In the corner: no. After 6P; 5H,j.H-D,6S939H-D,dj.H-D,BR gives the highest damage combo possible(as far as I know at the moment). The 5S5HS,sj.H-D,dj.H-D,BR is the safest follow up as you're not likely to screw up anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites