YoYoCheese Report post Posted November 24, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1qJqKyJiZ0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Pwnge18 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.mp4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tecta1Eastside Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Well it seems I wasnt to far off. My fault about the derp translations. From all the better translated info we have, we didnt get hit that hard at all lol:) Thanks to everyone in here and Hakimaru that helped out. Edit: Are we gonna make that cp change list thread now or we gonna wait? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 24, 2012 I'm waiting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
argilium Report post Posted November 25, 2012 i'm just loving the fact that the changes don't look harsh enough to relearn her.. i guess only the corner combos would be hurt considering how they want to nerf the combo length.. oh well, we'll see next month.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Report post Posted November 25, 2012 i'm just loving the fact that the changes don't look harsh enough to relearn her.. i guess only the corner combos would be hurt considering how they want to nerf the combo length.. oh well, we'll see next month.. And stein placement.. so yea we do gotta relearn out combos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Its gonna take time learning these new system changes. x3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Report post Posted November 25, 2012 How are you gonna have time when your playing like 6 chars and 3 of them new? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted November 25, 2012 How are you gonna have time when your playing like 6 chars and 3 of them new? I'm learning one at a time. I really like Bullet, Amane, Noel, Ragna (surprisingly), Relius and Jin. We'll see how I hold up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 i'm just loving the fact that the changes don't look harsh enough to relearn her.. i guess only the corner combos would be hurt considering how they want to nerf the combo length.. oh well, we'll see next month.. Supposedly her C normals have seen a decrease in speed. This, combined with likely changes in recovery and untechability in her normals/specials, along with new proration values, will lead to a complete redesign of her optimal combos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xntrikcat Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Faster 236D is great news. I just hope 214D doesn't become a joke, and I'm not sure how I feel about slower C normals. As long as the dumbass hurtboxes are gone from 5c and 2c I'll be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromus_X Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Yeah, 214D only hitting once is pretty sad, but at least it'll be faster apparently. I guess this means no more sweet bomb combos, but maybe she'll get something new with her different stein placements + Ikutachi. Slower C moves is fine I guess, as long as they're not CS1 slow. =( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Faster 236D is great news. Keep in mind only the laser is seen to move faster, the startup and recovery could very well be much worse. Yeah, 214D only hitting once is pretty sad, but at least it'll be faster apparently. I guess this means no more sweet bomb combos, but maybe she'll get something new with her different stein placements + Ikutachi. Slower C moves is fine I guess, as long as they're not CS1 slow. =( 214d only hitting once is actually a huge buff to combos, as it now no longer applies p2.90x3 for measly upfront damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Supposedly her C normals have seen a decrease in speed. This, combined with likely changes in recovery and untechability in her normals/specials, along with new proration values, will lead to a complete redesign of her optimal combos. FUCK.... sigh... hopefully they arent slowed down too much... I dont wana be playing cs1 again... As for bombs not being lame in combos anymore cor -- can you really say that.. its possible they nerfed the proration -- again unless you know for a fact that is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 The only proration nerf was to the p1 of the bombs, they've retained the same combo utility they have always had. The main thing keeping them from being a stable bnb segment is the relatively low damage:prorate ratio [(600:91)x3], compared to say, 6b [(680:94)x2] There is also a high likelyhood that they will far increase the damage of the bomb hit to compensate for the loss of raw damage (1800->600), implying that Habakiri will have a very good damage:prorate ratio. Assuming a tweak to the p2 of bomb, or the addition of smp is also reasonable, either way they will be a different tool, and have a new niche. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
argilium Report post Posted November 25, 2012 kuh.. slower C moves? since i did not play her in CS1, i might really have to relearn her neutral game.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Pwnge18 Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Ugh, this is all so frightening. Seeing Azrael kick someone to the other side of the screen for 4k while hearing that our overall damage gets hurt... Thankfully her new astral is a great morale boost, just gotta wait this one out and play it by for the time being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SolarMisae Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Slower Cs? Ugh...that is killing it for me man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Report post Posted November 25, 2012 kuh.. slower C moves? since i did not play her in CS1, i might really have to relearn her neutral game.. We can only hope and pray that they do not become cs1 style slow while the CP as a whole is a faster game... c0r were/how did you know/figure out that her C normals are getting nerfed in speed (god that blows) but seriously this is confirmed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 It's speculated, just like every other bit of information we have at this point. Nothing will be confirmed until we A: Get some video or B: Get an official changelog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nemesis Report post Posted November 25, 2012 It could seem like Cs are slower because everything else is sped up? ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 We don't even know if things are actually faster yet, it's all hearsay from the bbs. That's why I would recommend refraining from speculation based on speculation based on assumptions, it doesn't really lead anywhere but in circles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted November 25, 2012 Dum tempus habemus, operemur bonum. Dura lex, sed lex. Ave atque vale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
