Kyosuke Kagami Report post Posted October 11, 2012 It's weird to see a Guilty Gear game getting tweaks without needing to make a full-release, like red and blue #R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WolfCrimson Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Probably because patching is a viable option to balance a FG now, whereas in the past it wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinquickman Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Is there a vid that shows off the Justice wintrolling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krusiv Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Is there a vid that shows off the Justice wintrolling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted October 11, 2012 It's weird to see a Guilty Gear game getting tweaks without needing to make a full-release, like red and blue #R. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elochai Report post Posted October 11, 2012 (I dunno if this is the appropriate forum for this, but here goes regardless) I've been playing BB for a year and change now (P4U since it came out as well), but I'm highly interested in getting +R when it comes out on XBLA/PSN. Now, my inquiry is whether or not the gameplay of GG is similar enough to BB/P4U for me to feel right at home (never played GG at all, so yeah). To those who still play, does it feel dated in comparison? Or does it hold up fine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teyah Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Some of the biggest changes if you're coming from newer Arc games: 1) There is much more freedom of movement in GG due to zero-recovery FD break and fast dash acceleration speeds across the board, and zero landing recovery on (non Dust) normals 2) Knockdown situations and momentum favour the attacker to a much stronger degree, due to instant, damaging throws and difficult to react to or unreactable high/lows 3) There is a stronger emphasis on the ground game as the majority of characters have solid, reliable reactionary antiairs that can convert into decent damage and/or knockdown The other games feel dated in comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solid Gold Wall Report post Posted October 11, 2012 BB and P4A just feel like watered down versions of GG to me. GG's faster and more exciting to play and watch. It's DEFINITELY not dated. Just keep in mind it's much more complex/difficult than BB or P4A. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elochai Report post Posted October 11, 2012 Thanks for the timely reply's. I have no problem with a more complex game, since I can already build off of established fundamentals, I suppose. On the brighter side of things, I have people with years of GG experience to help me. Thanks again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Teyah Report post Posted October 12, 2012 I was just watching the a-cho 255th ranbat video and noticed that May's dust seemed a little slower than I remember: So I slowed the video down and took a look - it looks to be 30 frames startup now, up from 26F in AC. Wondering how many other dusts got this treatment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pichy Report post Posted October 12, 2012 If Kliff's did, it was probably by one frame. Good lord that thing is scary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhannmah Report post Posted October 12, 2012 So I slowed the video down and took a look - it looks to be 30 frames startup now, up from 26F in AC. Wondering how many other dusts got this treatment? 26f in AC? God, it always felt a lot faster than that to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amadeous Report post Posted October 12, 2012 To be fair, think of it this way: Now you just have even less time to react to "Oh, her 5D isn't an overhead, she's going low now instead!" Nerf in some ways, a buff in others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyle Report post Posted October 12, 2012 ^ Now you have more time to 1f-jump out. Psyduck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doragonkoroshi Report post Posted October 12, 2012 ^ in america? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyle Report post Posted October 12, 2012 ^American's don't block. psyduck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amadeous Report post Posted October 12, 2012 ^ Now you have more time to mash 2P. Psyduck FTFY based on what I'm sure most players will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rhannmah Report post Posted October 12, 2012 FTFY based on what I'm sure most players will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted October 12, 2012 real men interrupt with 5H! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mumm-Ra Report post Posted October 12, 2012 real men interrupt with 6H! ftfy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blade Report post Posted October 12, 2012 For what it's worth, BB and other more recent ARC games are easier to react to on block, so even if GG is faster, that doesn't make it any easier to cope with mixups. It still takes time to learn the pace. God damn you kids and your new urban lingo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silmerion Report post Posted October 12, 2012 For what it's worth, BB and other more recent ARC games are easier to react to on block, so even if GG is faster, that doesn't make it any easier to cope with mixups. It still takes time to learn the pace.Wait, what? How would anyone conclude that a faster game means easier blocking in the first place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reaVer Report post Posted October 12, 2012 Wait, what? How would anyone conclude that a faster game means easier blocking in the first place? Sometimes you just ignore people... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Circuitous Report post Posted October 12, 2012 Did I ever tell you guys why we added the smilie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silmerion Report post Posted October 13, 2012 Did I ever tell you guys why we added the smilie?Ooh! Tell us a story, Grandpa Circuitous! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites