Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 (edited) I think she should certainly be able to extend her combos with items. I'm still confident in the idea that she'll seriously be relying on her items more. Yeah, it's all about those items mid-screen. Stuff > 5C > 5D (Missiles/Bombs) > 66 6A > 6C > j.236C > j.C > 66 6A > Mami Stuff > 5C > j.D (Pan) > Stuff I just wanna see if the 236A (B finisher) ground bounce could allow you to do something other than a 5A pick-up. I wonder if they could make Stuff > 5C > Mami > 66 5C > 2C > Bubble > 6C > 22C > [5C > 6A > (j.)236AXXA] or [5C > j.C > (j.)236AXXA] > Bubble oki work. I like the Bubble route because it allows you to equip an item if you haven't already. If not then something like Stuff > Mami > 6C > 22C > 6A > 6B > 6A > 6C > j.236C > j.C > j.236AXXA > Bubble oki. The key here is doing (j.)236AXXA low to the ground so you can get the slide effect and setup Bubble oki. Edit: Ok, seeing that video, if you can end your combo with 3C > 236AXXA, then you should be able to setup Bubble oki. Now they just need to find a way to prolong the combo up until the 3C > 236AXXA part. Edited November 22, 2012 by Moy_X7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujiwara Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Edit: Ok, seeing that video, if you can end your combo with 3C > 236AXXA, then you should be able to setup Bubble oki. Now they just need to find a way to prolong the combo up until the 3C > 236AXXA part. Yup, I was thinking this same thing the moment I thought about how the 3C was there. This makes 3C > 236AXXA our most legit ender for Oki so far. I also approve of the bubble route more. Which makes me think of something else, whether or not we still have our item switch combos later on. Random thought: TK Swallow vs Opponents Wake-up OD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 In theory, Stuff > 5C > Mami > 66 5C > 2C > Bubble > 6C > 22C > 3C > 236AXXA > Bubble Oki should work. Love TK Swallow oki, just as long as you do it in time to Barrier cancel or Kara Barrier the j.B lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I'm curious if it's still true that curedot typhoon works in the air or not? I remember hearing it a while ago and wonder if it was actually true or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 22, 2012 yes, it's true. you can float around while doing it too, it seems to have pretty good mobility! was only able to see it once in a random stream match though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iora Report post Posted November 22, 2012 In theory, Stuff > 5C > Mami > 66 5C > 2C > Bubble > 6C > 22C > 3C > 236AXXA > Bubble Oki should work. Love TK Swallow oki, just as long as you do it in time to Barrier cancel or Kara Barrier the j.B lol. im not the biggest BB player, but what the hell does that mean? o.O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Canceling an attack on its start-up frames with a Barrier, usually done during a DD flash. So basically if the DD flash happens and my j.B is barely on its start-up frames, I can cancel it into a Barrier to avoid getting hit by a DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Putin Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Plat still breaks the opponent's guard with the hammer, I thought only CTs did that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 Nope, her Hammer Guard Crushes in the final version and that's why we only get 2 item stocks for the Hammer now. However, while it Guard Crushes instantly, it doesn't take away 1/3rd of the opponent's Barrier like CTs do if they choose to Barrier to fend off the Guard Crush. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SoWL Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I thought the amount of Barrier taken by CTs depends on the character, like with Guard Primers before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 22, 2012 I don't know about that, I guess I'll have to watch more videos and pay attention whenever someone avoids getting Guard Crushed by using Barrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yggjrasil Report post Posted November 23, 2012 *wondering why these vids aren't posted in the Video section* Fawck, I'll just add these later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 23, 2012 6C launches, Fatal or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujiwara Report post Posted November 23, 2012 *wondering why these vids aren't posted in the Video section* Fawck, I'll just add these later. My bad. Someone needs to sticky that thread. I didn't even know it existed yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 24, 2012 My bad. Someone needs to sticky that thread. I didn't even know it existed yet. lol, i thought i did this already?! guess this is what happens when you stay up 32 hours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) made a new critique thread, though cp isn't out yet it's not too bad to make a new one. was gonna make a new q&a thread too but i'll wait until it's out for that also, some simple item combos from the jbbs Frying Pan 2B > 5C > 3C > PersiaAAB > hj j.C > JD > 6C > 22C > Microdash 5C > 6A > Mami (3150 damage) Missile 2B > 5C > 5D > Dash 3C > PersiaAAB > hj j.C > j.D > Mami (2600 damage) (just checked, there's more too. translating now) Edited November 24, 2012 by Cirno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Let's see here... Corner stuff, 22C > 5C/6A setups: Stuff > 5C > Mami > 66 5C > 2C > Bubble > 6C > 22C > 5C > Stuff Stuff > 5C > Mami > 66 6C > j.236C > j.C > 22C > 5C > Stuff Both 22C routes still work but the second one requires that you cancel into j.236C at the peak of 6C. It also seems like ground CDT can be controlled to go up lol. I'm disappointed in these Plats, they're all just doing Mami > 6C > 22C > 5C > Air Combo > Air Persia in the corner and not even wanting to experiment with potential Bubble oki setup combos. I know that j.D Frying Pan also has more potential than Rising j.D > 66 5A > 6A > Mami, they could easily do Rising j.D > 66 5A > 6A > 6C > 22C > 66 5C > [Air Combo] or [6A > Mami]. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) i'll start using 236A~A to signify A ender and so forth Starter 5B > (5C) 3C > 236A~A >... Frypan ...5C > 6A > 6B > 5D > 5C > j.C > j.D > 5C > 6A > 236B 〆 3700 Bat ...5C > 6A > 6B > 5C > (j.C ) j.D > 5D > 5C > 6A > 236B 〆 3700 Hammer ...5C > 6A > Delay 5C > j.C > j.C > j.D > 5C > 6A > 236B 〆 3800 ~CDT > 22C > 22C works, gets about 5400 more stuff 236B > 3C > 236A~A > 5C > 6A > 6C > 22C > 5C > Aerial Ender 236A~A 〆 4000 Edited November 24, 2012 by Cirno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) I'm so fucking glad that 236A~X is not an SMP move, that's our Bubble oki setup right there. 5A > 5C > 3C > 236A~A > 66 5C > 6A > 6C > 22C > [5C > 6A > 236B] or [6A > 6C > j.236C > j.C > 6A > 236B] > Bubble oki should work. I almost forgot that 3C has a pretty good P2. Edit: By the way, I probably won't make the combo thread until after a month passes and people figure out more CP Plat stuff. Edited November 24, 2012 by Moy_X7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) yeah i didn't expect you to make it immediately. i'm just posting combos for reference/possible combo theory on that note (jbbs is going crazy with combos rn lol) ※Missile, Bat 2B > 5C > 3C > 236A~A > 5C > j.C > 6C > 22C > 5C > 6A > 236B is 3300 + oki 2B > 5C > 3C > 236A~A > 5C > 6A > 6C > 22C > 5C > j.B > j.C > j.C > j.D is also about 3300, also with oki. seems like hammer loop is still not possible also, interesting crush trigger + bat combo 5B > 5C > 3C > 236A~B > 236B > CT > 5C > j.B > j.C > j.B > j.C > 5D > land 236A~A is 4076 Edited November 24, 2012 by Cirno Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urichinan Report post Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if she can loop Ground Persia's. That'd be hilarious. Like, what if she could do: 5C > 236A~A > 5C > 236A~A > 5C > 236A~A just for lulz? I really like the look of her new combos, less 22C stuff not only means we can do our combos more consistently online and against every character, but it's also a nice change of pace. Hopefully we'll see some of these guys from the jbbs show up in match videos soon. :3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Starlight777 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 So BBCP Platinum is all about Air Persia combos now? I'm liking the sound of this a lot more than 22C combos lol. Does Air Persia still have FC properties? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if she can loop Ground Persia's. That'd be hilarious. Like, what if she could do: 5C > 236A~A > 5C > 236A~A > 5C > 236A~A just for lulz? If 236A has as much start-up as the current version, then that won't be possible. Currently, you have to do 6A > JC > j.236A or 3C > 236A for that to work. So maybe something like 5C > 6A > JC > j.236A for about two reps at most lol. I really like the look of her new combos, less 22C stuff not only means we can do our combos more consistently online and against every character, but it's also a nice change of pace. I was skeptical at first because I didn't think that 236A would have such combo potential but from what I've seen, there's hope. The double/tripe 22C stuff can really only be done in 3-bar connection against neighboring states. From coast to coast, you usually have to settle with a single 22C. I don't really mind losing the 22C stuff because you could really only use multiple 22C combos from 90+ P1 starters or off RCs. Easier is always better lol. So BBCP Platinum is all about Air Persia combos now? I'm liking the sound of this a lot more than 22C combos lol. Does Air Persia still have FC properties? Looks like it, I'm pretty hyped about being able to hit-confirm a 5B poke with 3C > 236A~A > stuff. I don't know if Persia desu ~ has FC properties but if you use it outside of an OTG/juggle, the final hit of 236A staggers. I might just use that thing as a cross-up now due to that lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cirno Report post Posted November 24, 2012 The double/tripe 22C stuff can really only be done in 3-bar connection against neighboring states. From coast to coast, you usually have to settle with a single 22C. it's really just adaptability, lol. ps my new cmv has the secret tech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moy_X7 Report post Posted November 24, 2012 Hurry up and upload it ~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
