Monarch Report post Posted June 25, 2014 Question concerning this combo: (corner) 2b 5b SOD 5c 2c j.2c 2b 5c 2c sj.2c j.5d 2b 6a 2c sj.2c I'm having trouble landing the final sj.2c, it has something to do with the laser hitting the opponent before I hit the sj.2c, but I can't figure out where I need to delay an attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochp Report post Posted June 25, 2014 delay between 6a and 2c Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monarch Report post Posted June 25, 2014 So slightly delay 6a, immediately do 2c? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochp Report post Posted June 25, 2014 no, do 2c as late as possible. you want to use 6a's long untechable time, so that you can get the laser to fire slightly after 2c hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted June 25, 2014 Is this the Keba corner route? I'm trying to master that one. I have been getting it consistently now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monarch Report post Posted June 28, 2014 So I've seen a few different 6B starter combos in the corner, which is the most optimal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted June 29, 2014 In the corner its less about optimal damage and more about optimal pressure I feel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted June 30, 2014 So I've seen a few different 6B starter combos in the corner, which is the most optimal? The reliable combo I've been doing for decent damage is 6b > 6c > (CT >) SoD > 66a > 5c > 2c > sj.2c > j.5d > 2b > 5c > 2c > j.c > j.2c If you want to bump up the damage a bit you can do the crush trigger for an extra 300~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monarch Report post Posted June 30, 2014 Yeah I've been doing that since I first started out. I figured there was a combo with better oki? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted June 30, 2014 in terms of oki, the ikutachi 5d 6[D] setup gives the best, but its not a safe jump so they can call you out with a DP, but out side of them doing a reversal it gives the best of everything. (Including a 5k roll punish and an 8-11k guard crush OD combo) Otherwise you probably should look into some of the safe jump setups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C0R Report post Posted July 1, 2014 Actually the j.c > j.2c > j.5d > j.2d setup gives you the best overall oki, allowing for not only a safejump, but also guaranteeing a reliable mixup, in the addition to the considerably respectable damage upgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted July 1, 2014 I'm more referring to the fact that you can do very discreet side swaps with the ikutachi version. Unless your opponent knows the setup and distances, you can land backwards (initially looks like you land with them in corner) on their neutral tech and hit them with a backwards facing 3C RC 6A into combo. It also messes with reversal inputs except for Tager, Hakumen, Rachel and Kagura. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monarch Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Regarding the combo in this video here : http://youtu.be/J_GSWGOJsQE @ 4:01 I'm having an inconsistent time getting the 3C at the end to connect before my opponent recovers. I notice that when 3C doesn't connect, it's because I'm too far away after I land from j.2C. Can I lean forward during j.C > j.2C, or do I have to stay still? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Regarding the combo in this video here : http://youtu.be/J_GSWGOJsQE @ 4:01 I'm having an inconsistent time getting the 3C at the end to connect before my opponent recovers. I notice that when 3C doesn't connect, it's because I'm too far away after I land from j.2C. Can I lean forward during j.C > j.2C, or do I have to stay still? You have to do a mini microdash so you slide forward with the 3C, It took me a while to get that setup down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeromus_X Report post Posted July 3, 2014 If you do forward jump cancel jC > j2C immediately after the 5[D], you should always be close enough to connect the 3C. I mean, I suppose you can do a microdash 3C too but that's just making the combo needlessly complicated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted July 3, 2014 If you do forward jC > j2C immediately after the 5[D], you should always be close enough to connect the 3C. I mean, I suppose you can do a microdash 3C too but that's just making the combo needlessly complicated. Meh, I always viewed it as a mini dash. Listen to Zeromus though, he's more right. ^^; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bakahyl Report post Posted July 3, 2014 I haven't seen the last 3c whiff because Mu's 3c has fairly good hitbox. Aside from zeromus' suggestion , are you correctly adding a microdash after 6c > CT? The closer you can get after CT, the less likely that your 3c at the end won't connect edit: personally i don't like using up the steins for habakiri at the end of that combo, but i suppose that combo was the max damage 5c punish on kokonoe's superball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochp Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah, the explosion was mostly to show max damage (pre-super), the combo still works without it, where you'd do 3c laser hit j.2c instead. Though lately, I've been doing setups that create 4 steins after the j.2c ender anyway, so using the explosion doesn't seem like an issue any more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
someonewhodied Report post Posted July 9, 2014 if you want to call out someone airdashing forward: 2d5d>j.C>j.2C>j.2d+]2d[>]5d[>Tachi>j.5D+]j.2d[>445C>2C>j.C>j.B+]j.5D[>j.2C it just looks cool is all. Not the most optimal punish. You can get much better damage off of an antiair or a standard combo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted July 11, 2014 What sort of things can you do after OD.ComboX > airhit 6b 4d jb j214d? other than 4d jc j2c 2c omoi? trying to work on a solid OD in reaction to superball punish. So far its just OD 2C 4D 214D get hit 5C 6C CT 66B 4D jb 214D 4D jC j2C 2C OD.Omoi for 7.2k I can also get 66A 6B instead of 5C 6C just wondering what I can do with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
susano Report post Posted July 13, 2014 I reallllly like that combo Nemi did at EVO against that Azrael player. Does anyone have the notation for that? I want to try it in training mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shockna Report post Posted July 14, 2014 For any combo involving a landing dash (xx>j.2C>662B>xx, xx>j.2C>663C>xx, etc.), is it possible to enter the dash immediately before landing, or does it need to be done after landing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted July 15, 2014 For any combo involving a landing dash (xx>j.2C>662B>xx, xx>j.2C>663C>xx, etc.), is it possible to enter the dash immediately before landing, or does it need to be done after landing? I think the timing is on landing, you can't preemptively dash afaik. Something I've noticed since upgrading my TV, TV lag changes things considerably, and I find it much easier on a 0 lag tv compared to my friend's 52inch plasma for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pochp Report post Posted July 15, 2014 iirc there's a buffer similar to buttons, so probably 3f. The input for the dash itself is kind of lenient, it's just the second forward motion that needs to be timed well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runis Report post Posted July 15, 2014 Yeah I think you're right about the buffer, but that's only for moving forward, not dashes. so you get a slight bit of leniency in the first input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites