Pauly-kun Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler So That Man looks like a Yokai?! And his name might invoke being Japanese-German but that's kinda meaningless imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylehyde Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Hmmm so wait. Spoiler That pic of Aria looks an awful lot like Jack-O, are they the same person or is Jack-O still a separate entity? Spoiler And I have so many questions about Sol being Dizzy's father. Like for starters...How is that possible? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, kylehyde said: Hmmm so wait. Reveal hidden contents That pic of Aria looks an awful lot like Jack-O, are they the same person or is Jack-O still a separate entity? Reveal hidden contents And I have so many questions about Sol being Dizzy's father. Like for starters...How is that possible? Spoiler Jack-O' merged with Justice, and later transformed Justice into Aria. So no, Jack-O' doesn't exist separately anymore, she is a part of Aria. She was first a naked Jack-O', but then the halo disappeared and the hair turned completely red. As for the second, never gone into detail. Only that Sol doesn't want to talk about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylehyde Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler I see, and may I ask what became of Elphelt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuki Garyuu Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler The only practical guess I can think of is that Aria was pregnant before becoming Justice, and with her becoming a Gear, so too did Dizzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, kylehyde said: Reveal hidden contents I see, and may I ask what became of Elphelt? Spoiler She got kicked out of Justice and had a family hug with Ram. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 23 minutes ago, Tsuki Garyuu said: Reveal hidden contents The only practical guess I can think of is that Aria was pregnant before becoming Justice, and with her becoming a Gear, so too did Dizzy. Spoiler Trying to think up of a theory, this is how it could have happened based on what Asuka told Sol. Asuka wanted Aria to go through cold sleep, but he wasn't able to convince her since she wanted to be with Frederick, but he was finally able to convince her to go through it by making Frederick into an immortal existence and insured her that Frederick would be there when she awakens. So Asuka makes Frederick into a gear and then cold sleeps Aria, and she could perhaps at that point in time have been pregnant with a child. And as years go when it finally time to make Aria into Justice, the child is there in her until Dizzy is born. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylehyde Report post Posted May 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Hide contents Trying to think up of a theory, this is how it could have happened based on what Asuka told Sol. Asuka wanted Aria to go through cold sleep, but he wasn't able to convince her since she wanted to be with Frederick, but he was finally able to convince her to go through it by making Frederick into an immortal existence and insured her that Frederick would be there when she awakens. So Asuka makes Frederick into a gear and then cold sleeps Aria, and she could perhaps at that point in time have been pregnant with a child. And as years go when it finally time to make Aria into Justice, the child is there in her until Dizzy is born. Spoiler Do we have any explanation why Asuka made Aria into Justice? Was it so she could also be immortal like Sol? Wasnt Justice around for many years before Dizzy was born though? Or am I mistaken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, kylehyde said: Hide contents Do we have any explanation why Asuka made Aria into Justice? Was it so she could also be immortal like Sol? Wasnt Justice around for many years before Dizzy was born though? Or am I mistaken. Spoiler To save her from her illness. The purpose why Justice could control other gears was to make gears useless, so they couldn't be used in war, just order them to not be part of the war. He couldn't stop gear from being weaponized by the military, so he became part of it instead. Yes, it was a long time, but the problem it solves is how Sol's DNA could be inside justice child. It's unknown how Aria's change could impact her pregnancy. It's not like I would expect Justice to have the same time for the birth of a child as a regular human. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylehyde Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler True, guess I was a bit confused because I don't think it took Dizzy that long to have Sin. But then again Dizzy seems more human than Justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Solhunter Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler There is still the issue regarding when Justice gave birth to Dizzy. She was sealed away by Sol, Ky and the Sacred Order while Dizzy was still apparently an egg, which didn't hatch until two years later. Whereas Dizzy's pregnancy with Sin only lasted five months. There's also the mystery regarding Justice's memories since she apparently didn't remember or even recognize Sol until her deathbed, yet she clearly retained Aria's memories by the time of her activation test. So, there are still a lot of questions regarding Dizzy's birth, as well as Justice and Aria. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Toxin45 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 So can you give a full summary in a nutshell? Like what was Ariels? what was the others had been doing? Also how can Jack fuse with Justice to turn her back into Aria? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zazz Report post Posted May 30, 2016 I'm not saying I called it, but I called it. If only I could find my post from 2009. I bet Blade is happy too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suzaku Report post Posted May 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Zedar90 said: And finished with the rest. Now that was a conclusion. Still ends with a to be continued, but it doesn't seem to have anything to do with Revelator. Reveal hidden contents So only Ariels and Bedman seemed to have died. Ram seemed to have been saved by Raven. Bedman seems like he is going to be replaced by his sister in the next game(the text box says girl). And, now Aria have been revived. And, Dizzy appeared this time at least. Seemed like Venom and Robo-Ky died, but it looks like they will be back. And, now for the biggest spoiler, should not see it perhaps. Reveal hidden contents Now what remains, the battle between Frederick and Asuka R Kreutz(?). Asuka R. Kreuz is what I'm gonna go with until the official English turns up, since Kreuz seems to be far more common. Kreuz means "cross," incidentally, which certainly ties in with his motif. Was the Library updated along with the story update, by any chance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 1 minute ago, Toxin45 said: So can you give a full summary in a nutshell? Like what was Ariels? what was the others had been doing? Also how can Jack fuse with Justice to turn her back into Aria? Spoiler Ariels/Universal Will: A "robot" created by the original man for the sake of finding unwavering happiness for humanity, and also for that reason not to hurt humanity. It started to think of what it means for something to be a human, and comes to the conclusion that "humans" have yet to exist in this world, that there are only dolls. So it started to go for the goal of creating true humanity. The original man tried to talk the robot out of it's ideas, but he never returned. So after that, two of the original man's disciple, Asuka and Chronus, took over that mission but through different methods. Chronus tried to make Humanity grow, and Asuka tries to keep the civilization's culture at a certain level. As for the others, most are only fighting giant gears and Phalanx in the middle of the city. Too much happing to give a summary. At most one could say that Banken and May fights to protect Haehyun, Venom and Robo-Ky fights Bedman, and Sol, Ky, Sin, Jack-O' and Johnny(only pilots an ship) flies off to fight Ariels and save Elphelt. Paradigm, Zappa and Asuka is at one of Asuka's old facility so they can provide the energy needed for the merge of Jack-O' and Justice. The rest is in the city fighting. I-NO never appears(only in the epilogue) and Raven appears with Lambda during the climax with Ariels. Axl comes and saves Sol(something like stopping time) to give Sol the time needed for the extra energy that is needed for Jack-O' to force Aria to become human again since she refuse to do that due to her memories from the activation test. As for Jack-O' able to turn Justice back to Aria, Jack-O' is half of Aria, she is supposed to a "restoration unit" for Aria, or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Suzaku said: Hide contents Asuka R. Kreuz is what I'm gonna go with until the official English turns up, since Kreuz seems to be far more common. Kreuz means "cross," incidentally, which certainly ties in with his motif. Was the Library updated along with the story update, by any chance? It seems like there are some updates in it, but I never read through it so I don't really know the specifics, but I see some new things in it. Spoiler Like Izuna is there now since he was name dropped in the second half once. But noting about Asuka's name isn't there. edit: Here is some wonderful face expression when talking about the Kiske family: Spoiler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fenris Report post Posted May 30, 2016 This is kind of random but still relevant: Was the ball-and-chain connected to Jack-O's shackle ever confirmed to be a Lucifero at some point in the story, or...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyosuke Kagami Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler The Sol being Ky's dad part makes no sense lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zedar90 Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Just now, Kyosuke Kagami said: Hide contents The Sol being Ky's dad part makes no sense lol Spoiler He is about to say Father-in-Law お義父さん(Otousan), it's cut mid sentence but you can hear him say otou. It's what people calls there wife's father. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kyosuke Kagami Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Oh I notice the kanji is different too lol. Okay, it's confirmed then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadite Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Justice most likely laid an egg just like Dizzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naotomato Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Whoa I can't handle all of this information. It's awesome. Thanks everyone who provided it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
churchblue Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Did Sin use his Gear powers in the story? I'm glad Dizzy didn't sit out in the final battle. I wonder if she pulled another amazing thing like in SiGNS. Also, it is super obvious that Sin likes Ram. Looking forward in seeing the other half of the story subbed. Especially chapter 7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsilversnake Report post Posted May 30, 2016 28 minutes ago, churchblue said: Did Sin use his Gear powers in the story? I'm glad Dizzy didn't sit out in the final battle. I wonder if she pulled another amazing thing like in SiGNS. He did, when Ariels brought up how she was able to discard Ram. Dizzy just did the same thing she did in Sign; blast a huge ray (still not sure if it's Gamma Ray), this time at a gear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadite Report post Posted May 30, 2016 Spoiler So with Aria's revival does that destroy all chances for SolxElphelt? Unless they'll play the one sided love on El's part in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites