Anne Report post Posted August 16, 2013 So, P4C was announced today with a loketest starting today. If anybody gets any info regarding possible Aigis changes during the Loketest please post it in here and I'll start making a list in the OP. P4C Compiled Changelist Buffs - Air radical cannon added - Command air dash added (air boost) - New move: 2C - AA attack, Fatal Counters - Aerial Command Grab Super - Boosting/backdashing in Orgia consume less gauge now. Nerfs - Meterless double megido not possible (proration nerf) - j.C and j.2B have increased start-up (22B > j.C may no longer be possible) - C Megido more negative on block - 22B has increased recovery. Changes - Autocombo changed: Second hit is a "flying knee" that makes Aigis airborne. - Hover is now 2A+C instead of holding 8 in the air - SB Goddess Shield: Consumes 75 SP and makes Athena come back across for a second pass ( ) - Can walk while in Orgia Mode Movelist: http://sp.p4u2.tv/chara10.php?id=ag Loke Test 2 results from Omex's doc: Aigis New command grab super in the air, ‘Orion’. Probably what the Ultimax suplex nonsense is based off of. Shadow mode overheat is the same duration as usual (one player’s guess) ノーマルアイギス、A連3段目(横バルカン)の受身不能時間が減ってチェンジコンが無理くさい とりあえず通常時のコンボが軒並みできなくなってるから立ち回りでオルギアにする場面が増えそう 5AA wall bounce possible, didn’t seem like you could do anything tho because it has landing recovery (previous loketest allowed for hover canceling for good combos, unknown currently) •3.7k off of j.b start •4200 off of sweep start •possible to do very close mode change combos •DSpear Combo - JB、足払い始動両方可能 •able to orgia boost twice • Can only air roll in orgia, takes meter • Orion command grab super does 3k •SB Spear 定ダウン (Sb spear might OTG?) - 2C untech time increased, no jump cancel - JC low height hits similar to current version? (Source was unsure, translation might be shakey) Second hit startup slower (Source was unsure) - currently change combos can only be done close, 5A>5B>5C>2C>B Change>JC and whatnot - new move J2C, does ground 5C in the air Omex's doc from the final Loketest before release: can tech after SB spear 2C now blows the opponent further away 2C > B change > D megido jc(2) superjump ja jb j2b 2b 5b 2c 22B dMegido C spear may have recieved a damage buff Sweep > 5A > 5C > jump > SB Megido > etc is still 4.5k 5A> 5AA> JcJA (1)> JB> J2B> 2A> 5B> 2C> B change> SB Megiddo> A radical> JC (2)> D Megiddo Dmg3307 Some variation of spear - FC recovery sb spear is fc sb spear does 3300, 4160 on CH orion (air cmd grab super) has no landing recovery; can be used as a way to escape atm JC2 JA JB J2B 2B 5B 2C 22b SB Megido A Radical JC2 D Megido 3840 AA jc JA JB J2B 2B 5B 2C 22b D Megido (number of hits on j.a seems to depend on the character, was annoying/maybe not stable?) j.b hover j.b fuzzy may be a thing Air roll uses an air action and orgia Can cancel moves into air roll (confirmed with j.b and 5aa on guard) 2C > 2b, 2C > 5B, 2C > sweep, 2C > 5C confirmed 2c is not a crouch confirm 2C is a fatal counter starter, if fatal coutner they cannot tech until they land 5aa (tiger knee) had landing recovery, is now removed Can’t do double megido without meter j.C second hit startup increased? 5b startup increased? (logic from hover j.c > 5B became easy to combo) boost j.b boost j.b comboed on crouch roll range may have increased? spear is fatal recovery can boost out of hop animation FC combos will likely give change and SB megido 5aa jump cancel on block SB spear and C spear still + DP startup is now slower. MIssiles may have projectile invuln now Dengeki article with screens of the new moves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psykotik Report post Posted August 16, 2013 https://twitter.com/SpicaTerrible_/status/368207580453019648 https://twitter.com/SpicaTerrible_/status/368207143050027008 https://twitter.com/koumyak06/status/368204458326368256 Managed to get someone to translate for me: - Air radical cannon added - Command air dash added (?) - Double megido not possible - Air horizontal machine gun taken out - Autocombo changed The persona card part is true; you can see it in the screenshots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andru Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Damn double megido not even possible? Hmm. Air radical sounds cool though. I'd like to see where they take her, especially any new moves / her new super / etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElegantShadow Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Managed to get someone to translate for me: - Air radical cannon added - Command air dash added (?) - Double megido not possible -Air horizontal machine gun taken out - Autocombo changed The persona card part is true; you can see it in the screenshots ... I do hope that they give Aigis something to compensate for this outrage! Nay! This unforgivable sin! Ahem... that aside, this looks to be quite interesting. I wonder what else they may have added and/or taken away? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spring_Raid Report post Posted August 16, 2013 I'm pretty excited to see how air radical cannon will be used in combos and whether it'll compensate for the loss of double megido. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Yeah, guys have been talking about air radical cannon probably being a new combo path, so I wann see it too. So far(if this is all good info) I'm not really sure in what direction thy're taking her. Having a useful 2C at least sounds nice, and what is going on with an air super command grab? I'm relying on info I get from around btw, so if anybody can double check something please do. I've also been asleep and will probably get tied up a bunch today so if I miss anything please share >_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Appledash- Report post Posted August 16, 2013 - Double megido not possible No, Noooo!! I wonder what her new special moves look like though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Added a block of stuff from the evernote to the OP, check it out. If anybody can get a better translation go for it. I'll make a more organized list when we stop receiving new info >.< Edit: fixed a really confusing typo -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk Thanatos Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Double megido probably is taken out to make Shaigis what a silly placeholder name look cooler when she does quintuple megidos on your face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Appledash- Report post Posted August 16, 2013 Double megido probably is taken out to make Shaigis what a silly placeholder name look cooler when she does quintuple megidos on your face. Lol. I'm not certain how Shaigis silly name indeed will work. She can spam.... cannons and medigo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElegantShadow Report post Posted August 17, 2013 What peaks my interests is this so called Command Grab(?) we have in mid-air. Combined with our Orgia dash, it should prove quite useful. Speaking of which, is it a Special or a Super? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HexaNoid Report post Posted August 17, 2013 It's a super. I think it's called Orion or something. Edit: The change list also mentions a "moving command grab" that doesn't require meter though. Guess she's got both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omex Report post Posted August 17, 2013 It's a super. I think it's called Orion or something. Edit: The change list also mentions a "moving command grab" that doesn't require meter though. Guess she's got both. that might have been a TL error on my part. anne brought something to my attention and i realized i missed the kanji for super when something stunedge posted described the command grab lol. as far as I know it's some sort of air super cmd grab. it also may or may not fatal, as I heard she can do a FC grab in the air checking bbses-could just be her air grab working like her ground grab now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HexaNoid Report post Posted August 17, 2013 Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll update the first post accordingly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted August 18, 2013 Hey guys, there's some more info coming from some BBSes I'm trying to get confirmed real quick. As far as the command grab thing goes, that was pulled from the evernote by Stunedge. Problem is, I just checked it and the description of it on there has been changed again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bizkitdoh Report post Posted August 18, 2013 - Can walk while in Orgia Mode Assuming this means 66 to boost now...? Curious. Also, hello. o/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omex Report post Posted August 18, 2013 Assuming this means 66 to boost now...? Curious. Also, hello. o/ That'd already been confirmed, yeah. boost is now 66, but you can boost cancel normals just like you would ATM instead of manually inputting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk Thanatos Report post Posted August 18, 2013 That's actually a strange relief. I felt hella scumbag pressing 6 and buttons to do better-than-godlike airdash mixup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andru Report post Posted August 18, 2013 walking in orgia is good. especially that we have the new 2c. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bizkitdoh Report post Posted August 18, 2013 I like it too. Was just looking through a few things and hadn't seen that, even though I was 90% sure it was the case. The input is more fun than just holding it, and walking is really nice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted August 18, 2013 Looks like the new 2C has FC. Also, hello. o/ Also, hey Bizkit, welcome to Dustloop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobodyexe Report post Posted August 19, 2013 Being able to walk while in orgia is going to allow aigis to not accidently waste orgia by boosting on accident when blocking crossups. With the nerf to jC you could probably still be able to do 22b>j.a? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omex Report post Posted August 19, 2013 Being able to walk while in orgia is going to allow aigis to not accidently waste orgia by boosting on accident when blocking crossups. With the nerf to jC you could probably still be able to do 22b>j.a? i think 22b combos still exist but 22b has more recovery now as well, so it depends on the leadin hitstun/juggle. reading through posts, some stuff that didn't get posted yet that i translated they said they were using 22AB in dial A to switch, though dial A gave 25 meter by that point anyway so it worked out. also going through tweets again pet said aigis' new 5aa is LITERALLY tiger knee, so yeah, enjoy your god normal. '3' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dusk Thanatos Report post Posted August 19, 2013 also going through tweets again pet said aigis' new 5aa is LITERALLY tiger knee, so yeah, enjoy your god normal. '3' It never fails to amaze me how easymode they make inputs in this game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted August 19, 2013 There's a couple more things I'm trying to get a bit more confirmation on before posting it up. Most notably 5AA is now a knee kick that makes Aigis airborne, C Megido is more negative on block, 22B having more recovery, and somebody mentioned SB Megido causing a groundbounce. A lot of the JP players are really unclear about her new tools and what to actually do with them. There hasn't been a lot of Aigis info out especially clear stuff, so confirming things has been rough. Even in Stunedge's round up there wasn't anymore Aigis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites