TheOneTrueScrub Report post Posted January 15, 2015 TheOneTrueScrub, here's a link to LK's console tier list, which features explanations for each individual placement, (except for regular Naoto, I guess he forgot?) as well as individual rankings for the categories of Neutral, Offense, Mixup, Damage, Defense, Awakening and Shadow Frenzy. It's a really great, detailed read, from arguably the best player in America. Enjoy. http://www.lord-knight.com/p4u2-character-ranking-character-stats/ Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyosua Report post Posted January 15, 2015 For those interested in the Minazuki changes, I uploaded the one (sorta shitty) Minazuki match from that Nico video. See if you guys notice the deal with j.B: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OwoQLVwQtM It's basically just Mori mashing buttons and autocombo, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Report post Posted January 15, 2015 Shadow HP Adjustments, according to this source on twitter https://twitter.com/ikenumajedo6428/status/555681769777676288 It says the following (double check is welcome) Narukami 10500 Yosuke 9500 Chie 10500 Yukiko 9500 Teddie 10500 Kanji 11000 Naoto 9500 Akihiko 10500 Mitsuru 10500 Aigis 10000 Yukari 9500 Junpei 10500 Labrys 10500 Rise 10000 Ken 9500 Seems like they're all lowered to 1k from the previous 2k health bonus Thanks again to Sougo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Balguna Report post Posted January 15, 2015 Ha, Aki and Kanji only get a 500 health bonus. RIP Shadow Kanji. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rio35 Report post Posted January 15, 2015 Ha, Aki and Kanji only get a 500 health bonus. RIP Shadow Kanji. I don't really know about that. With the new mechanics for the Shadow characters, we might see Kanji players transition to Shadow Kanji since that latter seems to be able to do more things with less meter and has a burst now. Of course, we still have to wait and see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fruits_punch95 Report post Posted January 15, 2015 His Mix-up is trash. If you instant block any of his hits you free to counter him. Beyond that is also super simple. His high-low mixup is so obvious I am almost never caught by it and his command grab is also super obvious I have no idea why they're nerfing it. It looks like you never ran into a Minazuki who used the Air turn (J. AC) to take advantage of the ridiculous hitbox the JB had. And that shit is really difficult to block. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AchedSphinx Report post Posted January 15, 2015 It looks like you never ran into a Minazuki who used the Air turn (J. AC) to take advantage of the ridiculous hitbox the JB had. And that shit is really difficult to block. Don't question netplay. This practice is uncommon in netplay. Even though it's good the many minazuki I play don't utilize him effectively. It's similar to Yosuke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DivineShadow777 Report post Posted January 15, 2015 It looks like you never ran into a Minazuki who used the Air turn (J. AC) to take advantage of the ridiculous hitbox the JB had. And that shit is really difficult to block. Yeah no that trick. I developed counter measure to the same day. I remember sitting next to him screaming about it till I spent an hour in the lab trying to come up with some anti-tech till I found something character specific. So now it really isn't a problem. That's really the best thing about local play is that you can experiment and come up with cool shit right next to each other. It's also a much needed bonus when half the online community refuses to play you because you play kanji. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Report post Posted January 15, 2015 Can we talk about how Minazuki has a 5a that cancels into itself that's massive and he has moves that move him forward in pressure safely that make it impossible to escape while shitting on your options so you have to respect most of his pressure until you get hit and then you respect but oh no a command grab happened.Like I'm just being real for 2 seconds, a lot of people online are not playing the game even at a mid level, so misconceptions abound when that's the mass of your experience. The fact online makes some "mix ups" actually mix ups (like a lot of air turn cross up stuff) doesn't help. Make sure you take your experience and compare it with what high level players are doing/saying before you reach your conclusions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syklone Report post Posted January 16, 2015 Thank you so much for this!! I get so sick of trying to convince Minazuki players that their character is fucking preposterous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skye Report post Posted January 16, 2015 I know of his scum well. Anybody who doesn't think he's scum should play Labrys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yashfree Report post Posted January 16, 2015 Ya know there is nothing that I love more that talking about how scummy Minazuki is, but just out of curiosity, has anyone been able to see/link the archive of the p4u v2.00 nico stream that happened last night? I watched like 10 mins of it then fell asleep :/ Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Report post Posted January 16, 2015 Strife recently uploaded a set of videos a 2.0 tournament. It has a lot of Adachi and Kanji footage mostly along with some others such as Shabrys, Marie, Ken, Yukiko, Liz and Rise, but the two first ones are the characters that appear more, so they give a lot of info. Said videos are here http://youtu.be/YMnvXIrxFH4 (you can search for the others, they're in his channel) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Luminos564 Report post Posted January 16, 2015 Can we talk about how Minazuki has a 5a that cancels into itself that's massive and he has moves that move him forward in pressure safely that make it impossible to escape while shitting on your options so you have to respect most of his pressure until you get hit and then you respect but oh no a command grab happened. The nerfs to 5A is what I'd argue is the bigger loss than j.B. I barely ever found myself needing to use j.B to get my claws in on the opponent and mostly employed it for the j.B>j.B>j.C>j.2D stuff. The 5A though I employed VERY often (though I tried not to mash it all throughout the match) and it was always hilarious to see the opponent freak out and back off even when I whiffed it with reckless abandon. Even I admit, much as I enjoyed having it, it was a rather silly thing. I dunno, maybe I'm a weirdo or a glutton for punishment, but I am honestly not all that ruffled by his nerfs. So long as he remains fun and has some semblance of his former glory around, I see no reason to drop him in favor of the next Tier Crown Flavor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OGRachel Report post Posted January 20, 2015 Yeah I can't wait to actually be able to jC a fucking Minazuki mashing 5A instead of my persona being broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RurouniLoneWolf Report post Posted January 21, 2015 We made it into Evo guys. YES! So hyped! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vulcan422 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Looking forward to seeing all those Japanese players doing work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oniros Report post Posted January 21, 2015 We made it into Evo guys. YES! So hyped! It was pretty unexpected for me. Get hype! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ragnarok_F4 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 That is awesome!!! I just hope that they release 2.0 in consoles soon enough, before EVO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cross Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Sorry if this is the wrong place I'm not seeing Ken up for download in the US PSN store. Anyone know whats up with that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokkan Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Sorry if this is the wrong place I'm not seeing Ken up for download in the US PSN store. Anyone know whats up with that? Ken? Ken's not DLC. He and Rise are part of the base game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cross Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Ken? Ken's not DLC. He and Rise are part of the base game. :0 I was misinformed. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RurouniLoneWolf Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Looking forward to seeing all those Japanese players doing work. Same. I'm also looking forward to playing all those JP players. If possible, I'd love to get matches in with all of them. Heh heh, I'm so excited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloo561 Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Same. I'm also looking forward to playing all those JP players. If possible, I'd love to get matches in with all of them. Heh heh, I'm so excited. Double. Im going to try to go to EVO this year. I got a lot of training to do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RurouniLoneWolf Report post Posted January 21, 2015 Yup. Same here. The next 6 months of training will be fierce but lots of fun though. I just hope Atlus and ASW speed up 2.0 console release so we can get as much time with the new version as possible before Evo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
