koyuki Report post Posted July 15, 2014 I think this CH 5C combo deal 6K even mid screen : CH 5C > 214A > 5B/2B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C(1) > 6B > 6D > d.6B > (d.5C?) > 236D/other Not sure about the end, just be sure to 236D (or other finish move) before combo time ends. can someone confirm this ? (or i'll confirm myself after work) Waiting for your next vid and combo thread :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HexaNoid Report post Posted July 15, 2014 I think this CH 5C combo deal 6K even mid screen : CH 5C > 214A > 5B/2B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C(1) > 6B > 6D > d.6B > (d.5C?) > 236D/other Not sure about the end, just be sure to 236D (or other finish move) before combo time ends. It does 5.9k and you can't add that last extra d.5C without your opponent teching out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koyuki Report post Posted July 15, 2014 I tried few minutes aggo extra d.5C doesn't work with 236D but it works with 623D CH 5C > 214A > 5B/2B > 5C > sj.C > j.D > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C(1) > 6B > 6D > d.6B > d.5C > 623D about 6990 damages Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sashi Report post Posted July 15, 2014 Unless it kills, though, 22B ender is a better idea. EDIT: Does 236C work? Usually better than 623D ender. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koyuki Report post Posted July 16, 2014 i'm not sure if i'm good, but i use 326D instead of 236D when i'm away from corner and i want to keep enemy close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Ending a combo in spring raid is generally a bad idea, because it allows your opponent to tech in the air, it doesn't give you any kind of oki. You want to end your combos in 22B ALWAYS, unless you're going for the kill, or there's not a good way to go into 22B, which will really only happen during 3C combos midscreen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRIAN_KYO Report post Posted July 18, 2014 another contribution to this topic, enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x05hj0LRn3o&feature=youtu.be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mMarikom Report post Posted July 18, 2014 ^ A lot of those routes and ideas were definitely things I haven't seen much of before (whiff 214A movement are we serious now). I kind of want to have some of these combos in my back pocket for a rainy day or a max damage punish or two. Mind listing the character specifics? I didn't think 4D 214A worked on everyone (I know there's a Jin specific 6B variant but never did any more digging than that...my 1.1 tech knowledge is severely lacking). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRIAN_KYO Report post Posted July 18, 2014 all combos are tested in all chars, the combo with 4D works in FC always, the only difference is vs Izayoi after 214A>2B>5C, etc. The interesting part of this combo vs tager is after 214A you can hit with 5B, in others situations 5B whiff. Grab>214A>5B Air Grab>5B Corner Grab>5B 236D(1)>RC>214A>5B Amane Hit Hit Whiff Hit Izayoi Whiff Whiff Hit Whiff Tager Whiff Hit Hit Whiff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koyuki Report post Posted July 19, 2014 d.6C > d.4D > d.6C > 214A works on Jin on training, But on live the combo goes blue after 4D combo is : 6B > 5D > d.5C > d.6C > d.4D > d.6C > 214A > etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRIAN_KYO Report post Posted July 19, 2014 d.6C > d.4D > d.6C > 214A works on Jin on training, But on live the combo goes blue after 4D combo is : 6B > 5D > d.5C > d.6C > d.4D > d.6C > 214A > etc is a specific combo on Jin and works on other chars (ex:ragna, hakumen) in corner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finuve Report post Posted July 23, 2014 all combos are tested in all chars, the combo with 4D works in FC always, the only difference is vs Izayoi after 214A>2B>5C, etc. The interesting part of this combo vs tager is after 214A you can hit with 5B, in others situations 5B whiff. Grab>214A>5B Air Grab>5B Corner Grab>5B 236D(1)>RC>214A>5B Amane Hit Hit Whiff Hit Izayoi Whiff Whiff Hit Whiff Tager Whiff Hit Hit Whiff so, does replacing 5B with 2B work in all these situations? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legacy49i Report post Posted July 23, 2014 2B will always work, but you'll lose a little bit of damage. Of course, losing a little damage is better than dropping the combo entirely. 2B is easier to execute and works 100% of the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awwnuts07 Report post Posted July 24, 2014 Hi all, I just have a quick question. I'm having a hard time with 22C > dash > 6C. I can't seem to cancel the dash into 6C. Are there any visual cues I need to look for? I don't remember it being this difficult in CT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted July 24, 2014 You're not cancelling the dash into 6C, you're letting the dash recover and using 6C as soon as you finish. Basically, just get used to how long the dash lasts, and then practice timing from that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awwnuts07 Report post Posted July 24, 2014 You're not cancelling the dash into 6C, you're letting the dash recover and using 6C as soon as you finish. Basically, just get used to how long the dash lasts, and then practice timing from that. Thank you. That clears up a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted July 24, 2014 Oh also, in case you didn't realize, you actually dash CANCEL the 22C, so it's not 22C > 66 > 6C, it's more like 22C~66 > 6C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legacy49i Report post Posted July 25, 2014 Yeah, dude. In CT Noel didn't have a true dash cancel. So it's gonna feel COMPLETELY different when you do this. Although you're probably at an advantage, cuz you're learning from scratch. We all had to unlearn her old timings and relearn her shitty new ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awwnuts07 Report post Posted July 25, 2014 Thanks for the tips. It's been so long since I've played BB that my hands either go back to old bits and pieces I remember from CT or I have absolutely no clue what to do next. Guess I'll just have to hammer it into my brain again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finuve Report post Posted August 11, 2014 Why is it that in some combos I find that 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B to be very easy, where as in others the 6B gets teched all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted August 12, 2014 Because it's not always possible. For example: 5B > 6A > sj.C > j.D > d.6B > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B not only works, but can actually be extended farther, however 5A > 5B > 6A > sj.C > j.D > d.6B > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B does NOT work and you must take a shorter route. So unless that covered your problem, tell me what combo you're going for and I'll let you know what's up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legacy49i Report post Posted August 12, 2014 Isn't A the only short starter Noel has? 5A, 2A, 6A? Outside of an A starter, wouldn't it always work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finuve Report post Posted August 12, 2014 Because it's not always possible. For example: 5B > 6A > sj.C > j.D > d.6B > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B not only works, but can actually be extended farther, however 5A > 5B > 6A > sj.C > j.D > d.6B > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B does NOT work and you must take a shorter route. So unless that covered your problem, tell me what combo you're going for and I'll let you know what's up. well on 4D > d.2D > d.6B > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 665B > (5C) > sj.C > j.D > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B I seem to drop it everytime, whereas on 6A and 5A starters I have no issues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LunaKage Report post Posted August 12, 2014 well on 4D > d.2D > d.6B > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 665B > (5C) > sj.C > j.D > d.6C > d.2D > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B I seem to drop it everytime, whereas on 6A and 5A starters I have no issues use this instead: 4D > d.2D > d.6B > d.5C > d.5B > 236A > 665B > sj.C > j.D > d.6B > d.5C > d.6B > 22C~66 > 6C > 6B > 22B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
legacy49i Report post Posted August 12, 2014 I don't think I've ever had problems with that combo. Maybe you just need to practice for tighter links? Although, to be honest, I usually purposely drop the combo at the 22C - Dash Cancel in hopes of resetting them with an air throw or a 6C. There's a lot of mashers out there who will get caught by the throw, and lot of people who won't barrier block and get hit by 6C. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites