MikelAL93 Report post Posted November 28, 2013 *Note* - When browsing the Sho Minazuki forums please follow the rules of the site, failure to do so will result in an Infraction. If you do not know the rules you can check them here -> Site Rules. Sho Gameplay/Discussion Ground rules: Remember to stay on topic and keep it related to Sho and his gameplay only.Discussion related to matches, players, and combos are allowed.Take story discussion here -> P4U2 Story DiscussionCritique thread will open once the console version is released. Important Links: JP BBS: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/52991/1380185892/l50JP Wiki: http://wikiwiki.jp/minadukishou/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinobispectre Report post Posted November 28, 2013 So based on the gameplay seen on Jourdal's and GameChariots website... Rushdown? Offense seems strong and his panic attack seems similar to Yu's. Edit: Right so no persona just hyper offense and... a counter super? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucalibur Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Ok so, from what I can gather, only his no persona version is available now. No Persona version only has autocombo supers as supers, no counter super. He has a command dash(looks like a good command dash too), knife throw(slower version doesn't seem to hit crouchers), and what appears to be a parry? I didn't see him successfully parrying anything with it. Can't tell what the other specials are. Anyway, I'm really loving this guy. He is what I have been searching for in a P4A character and if the game gets a console release, I'm picking him up for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tong Report post Posted November 28, 2013 and what appears to be a parry? I didn't see him successfully parrying anything with it. That would be his "Drive", it makes him dodge stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucalibur Report post Posted November 28, 2013 Oh, I see. Thanks for the info. I don't really know how his D works yet, thought it was a 'dodge'. Maybe it's both, depending on the input? Man, this character is really interesting me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koopa_Klawz Report post Posted November 28, 2013 So far, I'm really digging this guys playstyle. I wonder how good his cmd dash is for cross ups? Also, he has a Hakumen color. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyosua Report post Posted November 28, 2013 So far, I'm really digging this guys playstyle. I wonder how good his cmd dash is for cross ups? Also, he has a Hakumen color. It works. Saw a few JP players using the dash for that last night. Side note: His throw seems to have crumple during his recovery, so if you OMC it, you might be able to get some sweet damage out of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucalibur Report post Posted November 29, 2013 You can't special cancel the throw, can you? It just feels weird to have the enemy slowly fall to the ground after the throw, it feels like there should have some form of follow up there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyosua Report post Posted November 29, 2013 You can't special cancel the throw, can you? It just feels weird to have the enemy slowly fall to the ground after the throw, it feels like there should have some form of follow up there. Haven't seen anybody try, but you can definitely OMC it at the very least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikelAL93 Report post Posted November 29, 2013 Haven't seen anybody try, but you can definitely OMC it at the very least. You can also use OMB as well, as seen with Yukiko's air throw and Narukami's forward throw for example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyosua Report post Posted November 29, 2013 You can also use OMB as well, as seen with Yukiko's air throw and Narukami's forward throw for example. For the record, those aren't the only characters that can OMB forward throw. Mitsuru can on certain characters (Labrys is one of them). But yeah, there should be nothing stopping him from OMBing his throw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guymam Report post Posted November 29, 2013 Sho has 4 versions of knife. A and B versions are high and low shots respectively. Think Tiger Shot. C and D are the A and B versions greatly sped up. He has a pretty good sweep. It's like Guile's in that it's two hits and the second hit goes farther the the first. Command dash is okay. Can sometimes catch people asleep, but mashing can beat the start up and the recovery. His specials all psuedo rekka. You can do 236AAA to get all three specials to chain. He can JC his 214A/B on hit, but so far I'm having trouble crafting any sort of actual combo afterwords. He can reverse gatling from C into a B normal. However, it must be different from the B he previously used, so 5AA 2B 5C 5B etc. Also, C can't be sweep canceled. Sweep seems fairly hard to punish, so the aformentioned blockstring into sweep is pretty decent. I'm trying to work it out, but without training mode and the popularity of the game so far I can't just sit and test the stuff I want to test. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucalibur Report post Posted November 29, 2013 Right, I totally forgot he has more than just 2 buttons for himself. No wonder the knives were confusing me. Thanks for the info. What about EX command dash? Would you say it's fast enough to be consistently useful? And do the command grabs have any special properties like projectile INV? Lastly, it could be me being stupid, but I -think- his AOA is a crossup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kurushii Report post Posted November 29, 2013 JP BBS: http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/52991/1380185892/l50 JP Wiki: http://wikiwiki.jp/minadukishou/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dazardz Report post Posted November 29, 2013 AoA cross up looking amazing. And about the guys saying his offense looks great, I haven't really seen great mixups. Not any fast overheads, or that could just be me. I saw his SB Awakening Super deal 4500 to Akihiko, insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyosua Report post Posted November 30, 2013 His AoA is actually relatively hard to distinguish from the rest of his moveset, it looks like you can make it crossthrough somehow without using the command dash, and there's a good chance his SB command dashes will work well for mixup. If all this is true, his mixup isn't something to be scoffed at. It's also like day 3. Players haven't really had a ton of time to figure shit out yet. Looking into it further: SB command dash has invincibility. Not sure how much, but that is pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vulcan422 Report post Posted December 5, 2013 Pershona aka SHO MINAZUKI (all caps) announced for December 19th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guymam Report post Posted December 5, 2013 High low mixup he doesn't have much. 5A wait j.AC 66 j.B or command dash cancel into 236A are kinda as tricky as it gets at the moment. His grab is actually pretty nice because you can do j.2C and it has a crossup hitbox. You can make it kinda hard to see by adjusting the time and angle of the jump. I went and tried some of his combos today. None are overly difficult, kinda tight timing on a few things like 214B C 236A and j.CD land super. 5B 5C j.B j.C is not universal either. I'm mad hype for SHO though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Volt Report post Posted January 19, 2014 What about his Dodge moves? Are they good? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LightSpdAeon Report post Posted March 1, 2014 interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falco252 Report post Posted March 14, 2014 From Omex's twitter (guessing Mook leak but Omex is a trustable source so yeah ): 5a +1 5aa -1 2a -1 2c +6 5d 1-24 strike invuln, 33 duration j.d 4-24 full inv, 33 duration, land 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FluxWaveZ Report post Posted March 14, 2014 It's not a leak since the Mook's already out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Falco252 Report post Posted March 15, 2014 Ah, thought it was released in a few days actually and the Dengeki article was a sneak peak or something, my bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RurouniLoneWolf Report post Posted March 20, 2014 Yeesh, that 16 landing recovery on jD is a bit much. I mean I'm not surprised because you could sort of tell it's bad just from watching footage but still. I wonder what use ASW thought it would have without meter to OMC the recovery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RWA Announcer Report post Posted April 18, 2014 Here are Sho's patch notes for the upcoming 1.1 update: 5A Increased recovery 5D and j.D With 2D you can cancel them from Flash Fang (Senga), Soaring Fang (Shouga) and High-Speed Movement j.D Landing recovery has been decreased (yay!) Survival Knife Afterimage of the knife has been altered so the knife is now easier to see. Soaring Fang (Shouga) SB version's invincibility has been delayed Moon Smasher (Getsumen Kudaki) Minimum damage has been increased If his frame data in the Wiki so I can sink my teeth into these? Because all in all, it seems like he came out pretty good for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites