Tigre Report post Posted July 9, 2014 [info=Introduction]Welcome to the Yuzuriha thread! Please discuss character strategy, combos, match-ups, and other relevant topics here. Please also feel free to post up any questions you may have about the character as well. [/info] [info=Pre-Match Character Description:]She is thoughtless. She chooses to be herself evading from the statute. Letting nobody capture her, she lives as the fancy takes her. Only her capriciousness brought her out tonight. The cold steel gazes at the moment. The principle is a blink. Everything returns to every moment. The true self awaits her beyond the freedom. The lost self.[/info]Yuzuriha Wiki Page [info=Notable Players]Ma-kun Kure Keiji Jai Hidaka [/info] [info=Frame Data posts:]http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8882-uniel-yuzuriha/page-7#entry830302 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8882-uniel-yuzuriha/page-7#entry830332 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/8882-uniel-yuzuriha/page-7#entry830871 [/info] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Can't wait to play as Sephiroth's perky daughter. EDIT: Gonna try to make this post not suck so much. Alternate Wiki link: http://in-birth.wikia.com/wiki/Yuzuriha_(Gameplay) [info=Normals:] 5A: Ankle kick; fast start up, puny range 2A: Hilt poke; looks okay j.A: People's Elbow!; mostly just looks cool 5B: Vertical slash; doesn't combo into C normals at max range apparently 2B: Scabbard sweep; longer reach than 2A 66B: Same as 5B but downs opponent on hit j.B: Horizontal slash; air-to-air 5C: Big upward slash; seems to be a decent anti-air 2C: Sweeping slash; good range, hits twice 66C: Jumping slash; mostly used in combos j.C: Big horizontal slash; better air-to-ground than j.B, but still mostly air-to-air [/info] [info=Throw:] Grabs opponent and puts them in crumple state; has the advantage of being comboable from any position without meter[/info] [info=Force Function] Does this fancy long-range sword drawing technique; chargeable, slow startup, downs on hit, unblockable when charged[/info] [info=Command Normals:] 4B: Swings her coat in front of her; counter move, additional attack if successful, works on physical and projectile attacks 4C: Swings her coat upward; lifts opponent into the air, used mostly in combos j.2C: Axe Kick!; chargeable, used in Assault approaches, downs aerial opponents when charged 6A/B/C: Smaller versions of her Iaido specials; air ok, stance ok[/info] [info=Specials:] 236A/B/C(EX): Iaido slash; air ok, stance ok, has huge range, combo and neutral tool 214A/B/C(EX): Leaps forward and does a bunch of slashes before landing; air ok, stance ok, mostly combo tool 421A/B/C: Teleport; air ok, stance ok, A is in front of the opponent, B is in the air behind the opponent, C is behind the opponent[/info] [info=Stance:] If you hold down the button used for any "stance ok" moves, you enter her stance mode, where she gets ready to draw her sword In this mode, you can use her specials much faster than normal, but you can only use each button once (including the one held down) The button held down is in red (and unusable), the buttons you can still use are blue; if they are gray, they are unusable To refill icons, you must either leave and re-enter the stance, walk forward or backward a little, or land her stance parry 6 / 4: Let you walk in said directions, but very slowly 66 / 44: A small, free version of her teleport in said directions (but only on the ground) 7 / 8 / 9: A high jump with a more narrow arc in said directions 22: Stance parry, air ok, small window of invincibility, flashes white when successful, refills stance icons, can cancel into stance commands D / Let go of original button: Leave stance mode[/info] [info=Infinite Worth:] Aku! Soku! Zan! Pulls off her best Saito Hajime impression Two slash attack finished with one final vertical blow Good raw damage, bad proration[/info] [info=Infinite Worth EXS:] Super cool animation followed by 3720 damage Will cause GRD Break on yourself unless you have Vorpal[/info] Subbed Beginner Tutorial w/ Combos Subbed Intermediate Tutorial w/ Combos Extensive Combo Video (including a 7k damage combo) Matchup Videos vs Hyde https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a6NKpC1_c#t=10m02s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a6NKpC1_c#t=27m04s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edve1QJnFcs#t=17m21s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdXhCw7eEw#t=8m35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMywES3g0gA#t=5m08s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoXtXboTX9s#t=13m43s vs Linne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qiLq98coas#t=2m40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfcft98n4o#t=24m34s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MKim9sCy3g#t=28m12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_VpRC1Wp8#t=10m49s vs Waldenstein https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_p4Hlii8OU#t=49m11s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvhd0N-cgM#t=6m14s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMywES3g0gA#t=2m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFPsrH2dM4#t=11m51s vs Carmine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZRMNNfFCZ4#t=22m24s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz98PlqBdFo#t=4m34s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26xO29JX5c#t=10m13s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edve1QJnFcs#t=5m58s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sdXhCw7eEw#t=17m08s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMywES3g0gA#t=8m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoXtXboTX9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoXtXboTX9s#t=3m23s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoXtXboTX9s#t=8m17s vs Orie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOr8dIx7ksI#t=15m57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26xO29JX5c#t=8m07s vs Gordeau https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iZ5V9OqAIA#t=3m55s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz98PlqBdFo#t=21m34s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvhd0N-cgM#t=10m48s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXvhd0N-cgM#t=26m24s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFPsrH2dM4#t=9m08s vs Merkava https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_p4Hlii8OU#t=3m29s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_p4Hlii8OU#t=36m11s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_p4Hlii8OU#t=41m12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a6NKpC1_c#t=5m50s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olfcft98n4o#t=13m14s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26xO29JX5c#t=4m16s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edve1QJnFcs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edve1QJnFcs#t=2m05s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edve1QJnFcs#t=3m47s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFPsrH2dM4#t=21m37s vs Vatista https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fiP-b9O-UU#t=4m18s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iZ5V9OqAIA#t=17m26s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26xO29JX5c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTemPaOD9fA#t=4m55s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_VpRC1Wp8#t=8m43s vs Seth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZRMNNfFCZ4#t=8m58s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOr8dIx7ksI#t=14m20s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x26xO29JX5c#t=2m35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTemPaOD9fA#t=9m33s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB5MdqRxLqg#t=17m56s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvmraPGTSQ#t=8m15s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvmraPGTSQ#t=17m19s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpnv4yHFOlc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpnv4yHFOlc#t=3m07s vs Yuzuriha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAFPsrH2dM4#t=14m34s vs Hilda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5LLQKi_X0#t=6m18s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5LLQKi_X0#t=10m13s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOr8dIx7ksI#t=18m08s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGn2BOQkbvI#t=1m46s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTemPaOD9fA#t=6m49s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_VpRC1Wp8#t=16m47s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62N5xEKoSNY#t=17m58s vs Eltnum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy9TwYN8HJw#t=5m56s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5LLQKi_X0#t=12s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMywES3g0gA#t=11m07s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWvmraPGTSQ#t=5m13s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS_VpRC1Wp8#t=19m22s vs Chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a6NKpC1_c#t=35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1a6NKpC1_c#t=23m13s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnwryXDBkw8#t=4m50s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INVfCIh2Gkk#t=25m10s vs Akatsuki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDGwUNbfEWE#t=26m14s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1of4UNFzzY#t=25m31s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGn2BOQkbvI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGn2BOQkbvI#t=5m34s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTemPaOD9fA#t=2m35s vs Nanase vs Byakuya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiguraShiki Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Question about the stance. From what I get you can only use A,B,C, moves in stance one at a time. Would doing a dash/tp in the stance reset it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 17, 2014 From watching videos, I don't think it automatically resets. Once you use up all three buttons (or let go of the original button/press D), you have to enter the stance all over again. A lot of her specials and a certain command normal let you enter the stance, so what you're seeing is just really fast stance changing by the player. If it helps, watch the videos I posted (well, and the rest of the videos in that tournament set that weren't linked; I'll try to put up a better collection of links later). You'll probably start to see how they do it by watching when the stance icons light up (red is the button held, blue are the two available to use). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheArm05 Report post Posted July 17, 2014 No as long as you are holding down a button you can only do each A B C move one each. The exception to this is that you can do the slide hold technique detailed in this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsbtwwQi7hk . This technique lets you use the same button twice (A > B > A) Instead of forcing A > B > C. If you leave and reenter the stance in the same combo its fine ofc. Also for some combos you can stance cancel with D and reset back to neutral to do another slash without incurring the counter. Example combo 236B~D 236B~D 236(A) 421C j.214B 2C 236(B) 236A The youtube account of the video I linked has quite a few helpful Yuzu tutorials that should probably be stickied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiguraShiki Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Alright that video did help. So essentially once you initiate the stance with A/B/or C, you quickly slide to another button, which will grey out that input instead of the one you originally pressed right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheArm05 Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Yeah basically just initiate with A for anti air slash or B for ground slash if on the ground and slide to C. Then do whichever slash you need from there. From my experience it was better to slide to C since 236C is ex slash if you are over 100% (its just B slash if not iirc) and you can always cancel into that anyway. In the air A slash is downward angle and B slash is straight across btw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LionHeartx Report post Posted July 17, 2014 ellllllboooooooooooooooow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagane Report post Posted July 17, 2014 the 3 years of waiting is almost over Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HiguraShiki Report post Posted July 17, 2014 IKR? Finally I can play this game. How is Yuzu's matchups anyway. There was a link to most of the characters matchups but it was all in Japanese <_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Yuzuriha tends to fall around the bottom of mid-tier, but her matchups aren't really all that bad, per se. There just aren't many that are in her favor. http://sp.uniapm.info/diagram_view.php ^ Tier list created from player card data. Go down to the bottom of the page until you see a drop down box, scroll down it and select ユズリハ (for Yuzuriha) and press the button next to it. It'll take you to the character's matchup page, which are organized by their order on the official site's character list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheArm05 Report post Posted July 17, 2014 That list isn't entirely reliable however. It encompasses all levels of play not just high level. So a victory by the best Yuzu in the world could be cancelled out by some random getting bodied selecting her for the first time. For sure there is some correlation and the 4s vs Gord/Wald certainly confirm what would be expected to be her harder matchups. I have seen high level Yuzus steamroll any character though so I don't think any of the matchups are too bad. The lack of any solid reversal even with meter is probably where she gets hurt the most. Once people get in on her she can get bodied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 17, 2014 While that's most definitely true that the ranking covers every player, I think it's still a reasonable starting point in terms of how to think about a matchup. That said, this game really seems to reward solid, fundamental play; so even relatively low tier characters can still be viable. It's only the extreme ends where you really see the downhill/uphill battles come into play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Emperor Report post Posted July 18, 2014 can't wait to use her Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Emperor Report post Posted July 18, 2014 That list isn't entirely reliable however. It encompasses all levels of play not just high level. So a victory by the best Yuzu in the world could be cancelled out by some random getting bodied selecting her for the first time. For sure there is some correlation and the 4s vs Gord/Wald certainly confirm what would be expected to be her harder matchups. I have seen high level Yuzus steamroll any character though so I don't think any of the matchups are too bad. The lack of any solid reversal even with meter is probably where she gets hurt the most. Once people get in on her she can get bodied. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNIgfHqkxTY&list=UUfIT5ux78PcHPsbczrI3-Pg top one yuzus showing off some skill sorry if this is a repost starts at 7:05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellsoldier Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Im pretty sure her matchups are gunna come down to whether the character she's fighting can do something about her 236 slashes. Just a guess because so far from what i've seen only Eltnum can do something about it (gun super which she can combo afterward). Im prolly forgetting other obvious ones but yeah. Other than that she's seems extremely powerful and I am ready to embrace the top tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted July 19, 2014 So do yuzu's stances have a cooldown time after they're used or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Emperor Report post Posted July 19, 2014 IntroductionWelcome to the Yuzuriha thread! Please discuss character strategy, combos, match-ups, and other relevant topics here. Please also feel free to post up any questions you may have about the character as well. Yuzuriha Wiki Page Notable PlayersMa-kun tigre would this be better as far as move list http://in-birth.wikia.com/wiki/Yuzuriha_%28Gameplay%29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 19, 2014 So do yuzu's stances have a cooldown time after they're used or what? The only cooldown is the time it takes you to leave the first stance and enter the next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Emperor Report post Posted July 19, 2014 The only cooldown is the time it takes you to leave the first stance and enter the next. this can be shorten greatly by the d trick she has when doing certain moves and stance combos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HDKirin Report post Posted July 19, 2014 Pre-Match Character Description: She is thoughtless. She chooses to be herself evading from the statute. Letting nobody capture her, she lives as the fancy takes her. Only her capriciousness brought her out tonight. The cold steel gazes at the moment. The principle is a blink. Everything returns to every moment. The true self awaits her beyond the freedom. The lost self. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diveman Report post Posted July 22, 2014 The wiki description mentions her as a "zoning" character but is she really that? she actually looks more like mid-range rushdown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 22, 2014 She's really not about rushdown. I mean, sure, you're gonna be doing some pressuring too, but a lot of her gameplan has you controlling space with your specials and long range normals until you catch them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackYakuzu94 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 The wiki description mentions her as a "zoning" character but is she really that? she actually looks more like mid-range rushdown I highly doubt that considering her playstyle revolves around keeping the opponent out for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost_Emperor Report post Posted July 22, 2014 she more of a offensive gimmick type character with spacing. she as more things like counter and long range pokes and parry and etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites