Tigre Report post Posted July 9, 2014 IntroductionWelcome to the Eltnum thread! Please discuss character strategy, combos, match-ups, and other relevant topics here. Please also feel free to post up any questions you may have about the character as well. Pre-Match Character Description:She slaughters. The path was cleared by herself. For her followers.The slight possibility of mediocrity. Appeared to pinch off the bud.Unexpected entanglement. The actress revives by the syntax error.Just right to kill time. Until the day the curtain rises again.Eltnum Wiki Page Notable PlayersSenaruHiyoko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadeyo Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Would be nice if we could have some more clutch players behind Eltnum other then Senaru. I don't think her learning curve is that difficult and with range as a tool for (optional) utilization she'll most likely always be fine against most match-ups. I'll provide videos after the release of the game and depending on the most competetent player there is they can edit the wiki and so forth. Lets all have fun and show that Eltnum is no push-over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastStarSaviour Report post Posted July 16, 2014 Going to be constantly updating this all the way even after console release. Make sure to keep checking back and looking through for updates! Match-up Vids: Vs Hyde Eltnum vs Jin (Hyde) Eltnum vs Jin (Hyde) Eltnum vs Jin (Hyde) TENOA (Hyde) vs Senaru (Eltnum) TENOA (Hyde) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Eltnum vs Hyde Eltnum vs Hyde Senaru (Eltnum) vs Hyde Senaru (Eltnum) vs Hyde Vs Linne Linne vs Senaru (Eltnum) Linne vs Senaru (Eltnum) Vs Waldstein Senaru (Eltnum) vs Gashi-san (Waldstein) Watanabe (Waldstein) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Fusemaster (Waldstein) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Fusemaster (Waldstein) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Fusemaster (Waldstein) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Waldstein vs Senaru (Eltnum) Vs Carmine Neji (carmine) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Eltnum vs Carmine Carmine vs Eltnum Eltnum vs Carmine Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rank 2 Carmine Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rank 1 Carmine Vs Orie Row (Orie) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Bito (Orie) vs ALARM (Eltnum) Senaru (Eltnum) vs Orie Vs Gordeau Eltnum vs Gordeau Eltnum vs Gordeau Gordeau vs Senaru (Eltnum) Senaru (Eltnum) vs Gordeau Rank 1 Gordeau vs Senaru (Eltnum) Gourdeau vs Senaru (Eltnum) Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rank 1 Gordeau Vs Merkava Merkava vs Eltnum Merkava vs Eltnum Senaru (Eltnum) vs Merkava Vs Vatista Senaru (Eltnum) vs vatista Kazu (vatista) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Unkown (vatista) vs ALARM (Eltnum) Vatista vs Senaru (Eltnum) unknown (vatistia) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Vatista vs Eltnum Senaru (Eltnum) vs Vatista Vs Seth Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rion (Seth) Rion (Seth) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Seth vs Eltnum Seth vs Eltnum Senaru (Eltnum) vs Seth Vs Yuzuriha Senaru (Eltnum) vs Yuzu Rank 1 Yuzu vs Senaru (Eltnum) Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rannk 1 Yuzu Senaru (Eltnum) vs Rank 1 Yuzu Senaru (Eltnum) vs Yuzu Vs Hilda Hilda vs Senaru (Eltnum) Rank 3 Hilda vs Senaru (Eltnum) Vs Akatsuki Eltnum vs Senaru (Akatsuki) Eltnum vs Senaru (Akatsuki) Senaru (Eltnum) vs Akatsuki Vs Chaos Rauwan (chaos) vs Senaru (Eltnum) Vs Nanase Vs Byakuya Miscellaneous: Blood Drain - Eltnum's Theme Eltnum's Infinite Worth EXS Eltnum Basic Tutorial (subbed) Eltnum Combo Video Pt.1 Eltnum Combo Video Pt.2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShardZ Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Is Infinite Worth EXS an instant kill? I hadn't seen it referred to like that before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kazukifafner Report post Posted July 17, 2014 They aren't instant kills. The only requirement is that your character has to be below 30% health (and they cost 200 EXS, of course). It doesn't matter what the opponent's health is. On average, they seem to do ~3.6k damage, so it's no instant kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastStarSaviour Report post Posted July 17, 2014 I apologize for listing it as an Instant kill even though it isn't in this version of the game. I'm so used to thinking of it as such I guess I did it on instinct. I'll go through and fix that in a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVArcher Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Just dumping some notes/combos I have been taking from watching videos and such. 2B>2C>j.[C]>whiff j.A>5B>5C>421>6B>2C>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload /Raw punish on max range 2C BNB 2A>2B>3C>j.[C]>dj.C>land>j.B>j.C>air throw 2A>2C>5[C]>421>6>j.[C] or whiff 2a>2C>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload BNB/Character specific Corner 6>22B>421>5a whiff>2C> after 6 can do 421 to sideswap if you want to push them into corner Corner 421C>j.[C]>whiff thigh throw>5B>5C>421>whiff 2A>2C>22B>d.C>22C Thigh throw>CS>3C Midscreen 3C>j.B>j.A>j.C>d.C>421>whiff 5a>d.C>22B>d.C>22C Midscreen EX Wire>421>6>whiff 2A>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload Corner EX wire>2C>j.[C]>whiff j.A>5B>5C>421>6>whiff 2A>2C>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload Air throw>2C>j.[C]>whiff j.A>5B>5C>421>6B>2A>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload 2C(second hit only?)5B>j.B>j.A>j.C>d.C>421>whiff 2A>2C>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload Of fcounter hit 22A>2C>j.[C]>>whiff j.A>5B>bnb Near corner AA 3C>j.[C]>late dj.[C]>whiff thigh throw>5B>5[C]>bnb Corner 5A starter>5B>2A>2C>j.B>j.A>j.C>d.C>421>whiff 2A>2C>22B>d.C>22B>ex dp Midscreen wire>421C>whiff thigh throw>5B>bnb Corner punish combo 22A>3C>rising j.[C]>j.B>22A>5B>5[C]>421>6>whiff 2A>2C>22B>d.C>22B>EX DP 2C>2A or 5B>etc for pressure C normals >reverse beat in general for pressure Not ironclad but if out of range just do 2A after 2C to negate recovery but do 5B if close enough to continue pressure. 2A>2C>5A Block strings into 3C>gunshot>as frame trap d.B>CS or divekick d.B>3C corner? If you aerial shield an opponents move you can usually punish with air throw or ex thigh throw if you are close enough to the opponent. When opponent goes for throw/assault pressure do 3A+C+D option select. If the opponent tries to throw then you will tech and if they go for assault to throw bait you will anti-air with 3C. The opponent can bait this by just backdashing and punishing the whiff 3C if they know you are going for the OS. This is really unorganized since it was mainly meant for personal use but figured I would add it here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadeyo Report post Posted July 17, 2014 It's all good LVArcher, I'm glad you're sharing your notes. If you don't mind I like to make a video compilation of your combos but only if they're practical and could be used as novice and intermediate combos. I really don't know what to classify as expert since there's really no OD so I guess CS combos would be the extra mile. I'll probably test them all out myself later on and make a group suggestion about which combos should be in the video. This beats navigating all over YouTube and nico for basics so I'm happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShardZ Report post Posted July 17, 2014 There's a few combos listed at the bottom here: http://www18.atwiki.jp/un_inbirth/pages/36.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVArcher Report post Posted July 17, 2014 It's all good LVArcher, I'm glad you're sharing your notes. If you don't mind I like to make a video compilation of your combos but only if they're practical and could be used as novice and intermediate combos. I really don't know what to classify as expert since there's really no OD so I guess CS combos would be the extra mile. I'll probably test them all out myself later on and make a group suggestion about which combos should be in the video. This beats navigating all over YouTube and nico for basics so I'm happy. Yeah that's cool, her main bnb is this. 2A>2C>5[C]>421B>6>j.[C] or whiff 2a>2C>22B>d.C>22B>d.C>reload I think the j.[C] after 6 might be character specific but wasn't able to really test it at evo. For random air hits your goal is to hit an airborne opponent with 5B since from there you can do 5[C]>421B>6>bnb. A common way I see people do this is the j.B>j.A whiff>j.C>5B or j.[C]>whiff j.A>whiff thigh throw>5B. After ex gunshot you just reload>run up 5B>etc Also it was hard for me to tell the difference between whiff j.A and whiff thigh throw at times so be sure to try both if one doesn't work. I'll try and post more stuff when I get home from work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenryuga Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Hope I can play her on pad... So is there any frame data for this available? Or known moves of hers with + frames? Sent from my BlackBerry 9780 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShardZ Report post Posted July 17, 2014 Hope I can play her on pad... So is there any frame data for this available? Or known moves of hers with + frames? Didn't see any frames on her JP wiki page and only found blocked advantage for 1 char so far, I'll have to check out the move descriptions though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVArcher Report post Posted July 17, 2014 I couldn't say anything as far as frame data but I don know that when senaru plays he always "ends" his blockstrings with either 2A, 5A, or 22 gunshot series. 5B is also extremely good for pressure since it is a standing low and you can always reverse beat into an A normal. My biggest advice with blockstrings would just be to always let yourself have an A normal to reverse beat into. So if you start your string with 5A avoid going 5A>2A or vice versa since remember its only 1 normal use per string. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenryuga Report post Posted July 18, 2014 Thanks for the replies. Hopefully she's not too hard for a beginner to pick up. Sent from my BlackBerry 9780 using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HDKirin Report post Posted July 19, 2014 Pre-Match Character Description: She slaughters. The path was cleared by herself. For her followers. The slight possibility of mediocrity. Appeared to pinch off the bud. Unexpected entanglement. The actress revives by the syntax error. Just right to kill time. Until the day the curtain rises again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stickystaines Report post Posted July 20, 2014 Going to start posting up combos with YT links for reference. Thanks LVArcher for the notes. I'll try to keep it updated with interesting stuff, so if anyone has any corrections to this list or an interesting combo route to post, please do. According to the Japanese wiki: 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 doesn't work on Hyde, Linne and Hilda. Generally against these characters you have to do 421B > j.BC > d.C 5A > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > falling j.[C] > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload 5A > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > j.BC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload 5A > 2A > 2C > 5[C] > 214B > 6 > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload2A > 2B > 5B > 3C > j.BAC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload2B > 2C > j.[C] > j.A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload(The above combo but with 41236D finisher and 2C(1) before 22B)2B > 2A > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload3C > j.8[C] > jc Falling j.[C] > j.214A > 5B >5[C] > 421B > 6 > Reload > 2A > 5B > j.CB > Air Throw (Good example of mid combo reload when not enough to do 22B loop)3C > j.8[C] > jc Falling j.[C] > j.214A > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C / 623CCH 3C > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > (22A > 623C) or (22B > d.C > Reload) The last 2 of these combos use meter enders to finish the round, but i presume that d.C can still be used as a meterless option.(corner) 6 > 2A whiff > 3C > j.[C] > j.A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > j.BC > d.C > 22B > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > Reload (This shows the route against Hyde/Linne/Hilda)(near corner only?) d.B > 3C > j.8[C] > jc Falling j.[C] > j.214A > 5B > j.BAC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > d.C Assault j.C > 2B > 3C > j.BAC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > ReloadCH Assault j.C > 2B > 3C > j.[C] > j.A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload (side switch combo) 2B > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 421A > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload CH 22A > 2C > j.[C] > j.A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > (22B > d.C) > Reload (5[C] > 421B > 6 working on Linne? Only doesn't work from 2C or wiki is wrong?) Air Throw > 2C > j.[C] > j.A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > (22B > d.C) > Reload Meter: 236B > 236C > 5B > j.BAC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > ReloadCH/HCH 236B > 236C > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 5A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload236C > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > j.BC > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload421C > j.[C] > j.214A whiff > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload2C > 5[C] > 214A > 214C > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 22B > d.C > 22B > (missed d.C, not sure if possible) j.214B > CS > 3C > j.8[C] > jc falling j.[C] > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 22B > 623C (corner only?) CH/HCH 22A > 3C > j.8[C] > jc9 falling j.B > 22A > 5B > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 2A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > 623C > CS > 623C (5.5-6k dmg!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVArcher Report post Posted July 20, 2014 This is more of just a fun note than anything but you can combo into infinite exvs off 6 or the 22 series. The 22 combo might be corner specific though. Also for the Hyde/Linne/Hilda route how do you go about starting it midscreen? Just stuff>3C>rest of combo? Edit: Nvm just saw some more of that vid and looks like you just repace 6 with j.B>j.C>d.C>etc Edit 2: The 2C>j.[C]>whiff j.A>d.C route seems to work as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stickystaines Report post Posted July 20, 2014 From what i can tell, getting Hyde/Linne/Hilda into an air hit where you can do 5B 5[C] 421B 6 will work (http://youtu.be/6wb1ggZRGfs?t=15m21s), so i assume that doing it from ground 2C is the only time it doesn't work. Although Senaru has gone for the j.BC route against hyde when he has an air hit 5B 5[C] setup (http://youtu.be/shxw8zdf9g4?t=38m36s), so i don't really know whats going on. Edit: 5A > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 etc on Linne (http://youtu.be/6wb1ggZRGfs?t=18m37s). I'm well confused right now. Edit2: He then goes for the j.BC route in the same match (http://youtu.be/6wb1ggZRGfs?t=21m54s) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LVArcher Report post Posted July 20, 2014 Yeah that is what is confusing me since I'm pretty sure I've seen him do the standard route on those characters. Maybe he just gets bored and goes for the other stuff because he can lol. As a side not I can't be positive but I do remember at least being able to hit the basic bnb on a Hyde at evo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadeyo Report post Posted July 22, 2014 My buddy and I plan to do a ft5 or ft10 day 1 so keep an eye out for our poor performance. Hopefully I can keep up with weekly uploads if the military is not overwhelming my schedule like they normally do. Other then that I hope other Eltnum players in this group will gladly share their videos as well. Also on day 1 I plan to make a Skype group devoted to her but if anyone happens to beat me to it feel free to invite those who want to apart of the cause, even if they sub her or like her in general that should be fine too. p.s.- The video will most likely be Eltnum vs Nanase Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabluprint4 Report post Posted July 22, 2014 My buddy and I plan to do a ft5 or ft10 day 1 so keep an eye out for our poor performance. Hopefully I can keep up with weekly uploads if the military is not overwhelming my schedule like they normally do. Other then that I hope other Eltnum players in this group will gladly share their videos as well. Also on day 1 I plan to make a Skype group devoted to her but if anyone happens to beat me to it feel free to invite those who want to apart of the cause, even if they sub her or like her in general that should be fine too. p.s.- The video will most likely be Eltnum vs Nanase This is awesome! What's your channel on YouTube? I'm looking forward to learning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wokker Report post Posted July 22, 2014 Im looking forward to playing her, she looks like alot of fun. Also, a skype chat sounds hype. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadeyo Report post Posted July 22, 2014 This is awesome! What's your channel on YouTube? I'm looking forward to learning! -http://www.youtube.com/user/Sadeyo1 or click the link in my signature -sadeyo.amatsu is my Skype (kuro-senpai is the edited name) so leave your Skype name behind and I'll add you guys after work. -I'm not very good at browsing pixiv and there are rules to browsing websites in S.Korea or Japan so if you have group art feel free to share that as well since group will need an image eventually. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OmegaDivider Report post Posted July 22, 2014 Everything about her looks nice o3o I'll try and contribute to the thread as best I can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShardZ Report post Posted July 23, 2014 I quoted the combos that have incorrect links. Awesome post though, this is gonna be crazy helpful tomorrow. 5A > 2A > 2C > 5[C] > 214B > 6 > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > ReloadAssault j.C > 2B > 3C > j.BAC > d.C > 421B > 5A whiff > 2C(1) > 22B > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > Reload(side switch combo) j.B > 2B > 2C > 5[C] > 421B > 6 > 421A > 2C(1) > 22B > d.C > 22B > d.C > Reload Share this post Link to post Share on other sites