VR-Raiden Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Well it's no biggie, we can confirm ourselves soon enough. That would be interesting though if they really felt the need to drop his health by 1k before release.I probably won't get my hands on it til tomorrow evening, tonight I doubt it will download fast enough for me to get any playtime. 12.6GB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Seems like Ken is more about sustaining really nasty pressure than mix-up, which, if my guess is right, means locking Narukami down and not letting him breathe. From what I've been doing online and seeing others do this seems to be very true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixedmethods Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Thanks for the confirm, Agito -- gives us something to work with for his "Strengths & Weaknesses" data. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 If you're going to cover weakness I'd say its the slow normals and having to keep an eye on Koro all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 On that note... - His anti-air is rather average with the first hit not even hitting above him and the invuln being really hard to use. - His DP has pretty bad range and is very easy to punish due to how long he stays off screen. - To my knowledge, if your opponent crosses you up, DP > super may not be an option because the super will come out the wrong way. On the plus side... His low HP isn't as bad as it would initially seem. Because of Koromaru helping you out, you could do something like 5B > 2AB > 236D > 214B > 665A > etc to heal yourself during a blockstring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 The game is officially available. I wont be able to play for another ~7 hours. At which point I'll be playing games against a friend and will have little time for training mode. After that though... we in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixedmethods Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I'll try to transcribe Ken's challenges ASAP, but some notes: - need to fully test his roll, but so far, distance-wise, his looks like one of the better ones - C and D AoA finishes can cause Shabrys-type problems with the game prioritising Koromaru (or I suck) - 5B > 5C > Charge Thrust A > Gigantic Impact challenge requires you to hit 5B and 5C simultaneously in order to gatling into Charge Thrust (can't remember challenge number right now, sorry -- 12ish?) - j.B is as ridiculously good as was noted; can be done deep to combo into 2A (one of the challenges) for some possible pressure/mix-up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Wait 5B > 236A doesn't combo by itself any more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 On that note... - His anti-air is rather average with the first hit not even hitting above him and the invuln being really hard to use. - His DP has pretty bad range and is very easy to punish due to how long he stays off screen. - To my knowledge, if your opponent crosses you up, DP > super may not be an option because the super will come out the wrong way. On the plus side... His low HP isn't as bad as it would initially seem. Because of Koromaru helping you out, you could do something like 5B > 2AB > 236D > 214B > 665A > etc to heal yourself during a blockstring. It's not that the super comes out wrong, but he has to actually recover a bit before the super comes out. Also 5B>236A does combo by itself but you can have koro do 5c at the same time to increase damage. It's also one of Ken's challenge mode combos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 OK good... I was worried that pretty much all of the combos I was planning on doing weren't going to work any more... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 5AA>5B>236AA>Oki is something I've been doing quite a bit. It works pretty well as a basic low-execution confirm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I'm feeling 5AA > 5B > 236AA > 2C > j.A > j.B > j.2B > 236C > 236A/B~(A/B) > oki may be a thing... I'll need to test...... soooooooon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 You can actually do 5AA>5B>5C>236A (B follow up)> 236D> 66> 2B into stuff. I haven't found a way to optimize this yet though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Cool cool... Looks like everything I had going at Evo is still valid :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Sorry for double post... Day 1 combos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ6MUGZnK0Y Combo thread not open yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mixedmethods Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Going back to Narukami: I agree it's a bad MU, but unless you have Koromaru doing anything, Ziodyne won't hurt him. The hitbox for Ziodyne doesn't touch Koromaru when he's in his idle animation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I was wondering about 5AAA not using Koromaru too... I thought it was just a change to the auto combo I wasn't aware of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR-Raiden Report post Posted August 28, 2014 My bad, forgot to unlock the threads last night lol. They're open now, I have it downloading but will have to wait til after work to play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Agito Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Alright then. Would you rather me re-post stuff there or just leave it here and everything new go in the threads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR-Raiden Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I can just move your post there when I get to a computer. So 5AAA normally has Koro do 5C at the same time as the 3rd 5A? Wonder if they are jump cancel cancelling the 236A to prevent that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X40J995 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) I think the player is using Koromaru's 236D after the third A press. I tried it out myself and it seems to work. Or maybe not. 236D comes out too fast that way; Ken doesn't recover in time to do 236B. Edited August 28, 2014 by X40J995 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpLSlick Report post Posted August 28, 2014 I think I found out how to make Koro not attack after the third A press. Apparently if you hold back on the third A, Koro won't attack. He will just stay in place. So you can do that combo by doing AAA 41236A 236D. Hope that helps you guys out :D :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
X40J995 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Works for me. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VR-Raiden Report post Posted August 28, 2014 Interesting, glad it's an easy solution. Btw for whatever reason I'm unable to move posts, just hide or delete. I'll try getting that fixed but for now you can go ahead and just repost those combos in the combo thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam0812 Report post Posted August 28, 2014 My god ken looks cool. Was gonna play yukari but gonna go this guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
