Final Ultima Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Some changes have been made to the throw combos section, by the way. I'll edit the bulk combo list to include both these and the Blood Kain combos Bloodcrave mentioned earlier. Ground combos 5B, 5C, 5D, (delay) Hell's Fang, Tsuika 2A, 5B, 5C, Carnage Scissor or any special -> followup 2A, 5B, 5C, 2C, Hell's Fang, Tsuika 6B, 5C, 2C, Hell's Fang, Tsuika 5B, 3C, 22C, 5B, 5C, Hell's Fang, Tsuika Launch into air combo 5B, 5C, 5D, DC, 6A, HJC, air combo 6A, 5D, DC, 6A, HJC, air combo (crouching opponent only) 5B, 5C, 6C, DC, air combo 2A (repeat), 5B, 6A, JC, air combo 2A (repeat), 5B, 5C, Hell's Fang RC, 5B, 6A, JC, air combo (corner) 2B, 5C, 3C, Dead Spike RC, air combo CH Gauntlet Hades, 6A, air combo CH Hell's Fang, 5B, Inferno Divider, (delay) Upper, (delay) Yoko Fukitobashi, land, 6A, air combo Air combos j.B, j.C, JC, j.C, j.D, D Inferno Divider -> followups j.C, j.D, JC, j.C, j.D, D Inferno Divider -> followups Throw combos Throw, Gauntlet Hades, (delay) Keri Age, 5B, Inferno Divider -> followups Throw, Carnage Scissor - Only works on heavyweight characters (corner) Throw, D Inferno Divider, Upper, Kakato Otoshi Back throw, forward HJ, j.C, j.D, JC, j.C, j.D, D Inferno Divider -> followups - Stable combo Back throw, Gauntlet Hades, (delay) Keri Age, 5B, 6A, air combo - Character specific? Combos including Blood Kain * Normal chain~ ..., 3C, Blood Kain, 5C, 5D etc (corner) ..., 3C, Blood Kain, 5C, (5D, DC) x 3, Inferno Divider -> followups * Throw~ (corner) Throw, Blood Kain, (5D, DC) x 2, 5D (1 hit), D Inferno Divider -> followups Back throw, Blood Kain, j.D, JC, (delay) j.D, land, j.D, JC, j.B, D Inferno Divider -> followups Combos during Blood Kain (5D, DC) x N, Carnage Scissor (near corner) 5B, 6A, JC, (j.C, j.D, JC, (delay) j.D, land) x 2, (5D, DC) x 2, Gauntlet Hades or Yami ni Kuwarero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodcrave Report post Posted November 30, 2008 i think instead of before HJ, u should translate it as forward HJ or walk forward abit and HJ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TITANIUM BEAST!!! Report post Posted November 30, 2008 Another combo to look out for is chain to 5C -> 6C -> dash cancel into aircombo. Saw this in the recent gamersvision vids, you guys should check them out. HDD's Ragna is strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Final Ultima Report post Posted November 30, 2008 i think instead of before HJ, u should translate it as forward HJ or walk forward abit and HJAh yeah, I had forgotten that it could also mean "ahead", and given that it's not a corner combo, I guess forward HJ makes sense. Having a JC after that still confuses me a little though, it's not like it's a Jump Install or anything. Another combo to look out for is chain to 5C -> 6C -> dash cancel into aircombo. Saw this in the recent gamersvision vids, you guys should check them out. HDD's Ragna is strong.Ooh, mid-screen? Here's hoping. I'll check it out. Edit: I'm loving some of those combos of his. CH Hell's Fang has ridiculously good untechable time to go with it's absurd hitstun, I see. He managed to get that back throw combo off once as well, but the rest of the time it didn't quite work out for him. Guess he just wasn't delaying the Keri Age enough? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted November 30, 2008 yes it does work, i saw it on an early joybox video by a pink ragna he does it alot, its distance dependent you have to be close to the other character but it does better damage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4F6aN6F2GI&feature=related skip to 1:11 to see pink ragna dominate on day like 4 of blazblue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodcrave Report post Posted November 30, 2008 wow 6C > j.C > j.D > air throw > ID HDD is really good, never heard of him o_O; Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted November 30, 2008 i think hdd might be the pink ragna i've seen raping in the joybox and trf stream vids hes the only one i've seen doing the dash cancel combos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodcrave Report post Posted December 1, 2008 wooot u can dc 6C on the 1st hit as well! finally we get a glimpse of what 22C is capable of.. u guys should check out the pink ragna from the new vids from joybox edit: lol C ID > upper > wall bounce > 5B > D ID > upper > wall bounce RC > air back dash > GH > additional and it seems that back throw > 6A > HJ whatever works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hideki Report post Posted December 1, 2008 So, how do you see Ragna on the tier list... High, maybe Top? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodcrave Report post Posted December 1, 2008 i think everyone's kinda agreed that he's high, but not top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xtra_Zero Report post Posted December 1, 2008 I'd say mid. He's pretty much a normal character with no special abilities or tricks up his sleeve, the exchange being he is easy to pick up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddrcata Report post Posted December 1, 2008 I'd say mid. He's pretty much a normal character with no special abilities or tricks up his sleeve, the exchange being he is easy to pick up. Nothing really special...except the fact that I have yet to see any other character pull off 50% life combos from rather simple looking moves. Jin looks like he outputs a ton of damage too, but that involves using freezes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damned Wolfe Report post Posted December 1, 2008 As long as Ragna can do big damage without having to depend upon Blood Kain he's good. I don't think he's top. Never have. He's real solid. Save for being able to move in on his opponent undercover like Sol's GF FRC. I'm just waiting until people start effectively zoning him out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Final Ultima Report post Posted December 1, 2008 It's still early days yet, but to me it seems like he'll always be quite a competent character choice, but not absurd. Good rushdown, intuitive combos and a standing overhead you can gatling from are all good enough for me. Don't forget that he's got a desperation attack in the form of Yami ni Kuwarero too. Anyway, combo list edited. Also, it seems the wiki now has a combo root table. http://www40.atwiki.jp/blazblue/?plugin=ref&serial=8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damned Wolfe Report post Posted December 1, 2008 The Pink Ragna!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSE-ukPiu6c&feature=related You get to see use of his OTG grab and the combo capabilities. And 7:01 air combo into air grab! Sexy. Sorry I haven't posted all the vids in the first post yet. School has got me pretty busy and I don't have my own computer yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
True_Tech Report post Posted December 1, 2008 i'm gonna say top along arakune and rachel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king of heart Report post Posted December 2, 2008 so "Kaqn" is playing Ragna " maybe because Ragna is more like order Sol " any other sol/order sol player using him ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsak Report post Posted December 2, 2008 definitely gonna use him he is the most manly character in the game and he steals health and he has Rock-It Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB Report post Posted December 3, 2008 i've played ~30 games with ragna now. he seems like ryu in any sf game. very balanced but nothing special.... no real specialities but no real weaknesses either. need to learn his dp prorities/properties a little more and his gatling chain diagram is pretty helpful. having a few lows and an overhead as well as dash-cancellable moves makes him a pretty aggressive character. fun fun~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bloodcrave Report post Posted December 3, 2008 spam moar blood kain! XD definitely not seeing enough of it, remember if u can use devoured by darkness to stop it at anytime, even though u waste 50% doing it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the8anarchist Report post Posted December 3, 2008 yes you kill 50% heat doing that move BUT if you can connect it well..... it would take a miracle for someone to comeback after getting hit with it... that is if they're still living. has anyone survived a dark devour AND WON afterwards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrimsonDisaster Report post Posted December 3, 2008 Dunno why everybody is like "there's nothing special about Ragna" when he gets to do combos that do like 50-80% life (depending on opponent, burst status, etc.) that give him anywhere from 25-60+% life back. I would say that's fairly special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarGeta Report post Posted December 3, 2008 Is there any vids of the blood kain combos being used? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HCO_ Report post Posted December 3, 2008 Is there any vids of the blood kain combos being used? Like, two, and they're both from CrimsonDisaster. Seems like the Japanese players really dislike losing life for more damage, not American enough imo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR1GtwkNHzQ First round http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcpKdq8o2bE ~5:00, 10:05 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Final Ultima Report post Posted December 3, 2008 Good stuff. Definitely clocking those tactics. Honestly, I don't know why Blood Kain combos don't see more use. It's not like you're really losing all that much health if you connect with the full combo anyway, what with all the j.Ds and 5Ds. Hell, if you're sitting on 100% Heat Gauge, you can get more health than you started with. Biggest problem I see with it is that I imagine a lot of players (particularly the defense deprived ones) would probably save their Barrier Burst for just such an occasion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites