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[P4AU] Naoto Shirogane - Combo Thread "Operation time~!" (Updated: 3/23/15)

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j236B>j236A>TC 5C youd want to delay the j236A as much as possible

236A>D trap hits>236D you slightly delay doing 236236AB after this  i believe its simillar to stuff like 2C>236D>236236AB if you have issues with zapper carrying them up out of the super. 

midscreen 5C>214A~BC>236A>TC 2AB i usually try to buffer a dash inbetween just incase, it usually works without it though

 

Zappers work odd on chie midscreen 

Ill list the notations in order of the vids 

 

5B>2AB>236C>BCD>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>214B~BC>236B>j214D>236A>236D>236236B>2AB>236CD>214B~AC~AB>214214AB~Ax4~C

5B>2AB>236C>BCD>jB>j236B>j236A>TC dash 5A>5C>214A~BC>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>236B>j214D>236A~AB>236D>236236ABx2

 

5B>2AB>236C>BCD>jB>j236B>j236A>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>214B~BC>236B~AC>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax4~C

 

5AA>5B>2AB>236C>BCD>jB>j236B>j236A>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>214B~BC>236B~AC>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax2~C

 

5AA>5B>2AB>236C>BCD>jB>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A>236D>236236AB>214214AB~Ax2~C

 

2A>5B>5C>BCD>2AB>236CD>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A~AB>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax3~C

 

5B>5C>2AB>236C>BCD>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A~AB>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax4~C

 

2B>jB>jC>BCD>>j236B>j236A>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax3~C

jA>BCD>jB>2AB>236CD>jB>j236B>j236A>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax3~C

 

jA>BCD>jB>2AB>236CD>jB>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>214B~BC>236B>TC 214A~AC>236D>236236ABx2

 

jA>BCD>jB>2AB>236CD>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A~AB>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax3~C

 

2A>5AA>5B>2AB>236C>BCD>jB>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>214B~BC>236B>TC 214A~AC>236D>236236ABx2

 
CD>BCD>236236B>2AB>236CD>214B~BC>236B>j214D>236A>236CD>214B~AC~AB>214214AB~Ax2~C
 
CD>BCD>back up 236D>214A~AC~AAAA>236236ABx3
 
CD>BCD>236D>236236AB>2AB>214B~BC>236B~AC>236A(whiffed)~AB>214CD>236A>214214AB~Ax4~C
 
jCD>BCD>j214D>2AB>236236ABx3
 
jCD>BCD>dash 2AB>236CD>236236ABx3
 
jCD>BCD>dash 2AB>236CD>jB>j236B>j236A>TC 5C>236D>236236AB>2AB>214214AB~Ax2~C
 
jCD>BCD>2AB>236CD>214B~BC~AC>236B>j214D>236A>236CD>236236ABx2
 
236A~Ax5>BCD>2AB>236CD>>jB>j236B>j236A>236A>TC 2AB>236CD>214B~BC~AC>236236ABx2

 

 

 

 

I was thinking of making a sort of combo help vid to be made, explaining why this  or that screw up may happen and what not or lil tricksies to getting stuff down 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAYMcv4ZPgQ&list=UU2qK1KEvCq_zJsznn7gzo8w thisll hopefully be a nice lil playlist. another shadow burst route off of shots though i have a feeling there might be a way to optimize it a bit more either way its still really good. and ways to decimate kens for dping. Really nice 

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This is amazing I'm still trying to work S.Naoto's on the (214+A, 5A(5x)) it seems I can't SBM into it after I do it maybe it's something I'm missing here?

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I find A shots the hardest to SBM after because they have the least untechable time on the last shot. Try mashing A for the first few shots, then inputting A+C+D for the last one. Not too early though, or you'll end up accidentally SBM'ing the second to last shot. You can also try mashing A for every shot, then double tap/mash A+C+D after the final shot.

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I have a button macro'd to burst and it makes it a lot easier.

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Made up a cute midscreen fatal throw combo.

FC grab>2A>5C>IAD J.B(J.A)>J.C>5C>236B> C shots

Damage:2387

Meter:27

Fate:1

If you want damage and fairly strict timing for the 2A go for it. If you want fate stick to the normal but I recommend learning this combo and using it whenever you get the chance for the corner carry. I hope this combo isn't already out there :|

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That combo has been around since vanilla, but it's still good to know. With S.Naoto, if you land a grab while the opponent is still fear'd, but after meter cooldown has expired(if they managed to block your hamaon mixup), you can pretty much build the meter and combo into mudoon/hamaon right there.

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