Celerity Report post Posted September 9, 2014 Welcome to the Marie Combo Thread! Please be respectful and follow the rules during your time here. Don't be a jerkface! If you're not familiar with the rules, they can be found here -> Site Rules. General Information: If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! This post will be updated frequently with the community's most useful and practical combos. Please follow the notation provided, and try to make your combos as readable as possible. Don't forget to tell us the damage, as well!All combos are listed without the benefit of weather buffs unless otherwise stated.Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for the posting and discussion of combos only.Notation Usedj Jump sj Super Jump jc Jump Cancel sjc Super Jump Cancel IAD Instant Air Dash CH Counter Hit FC Fatal Counter CR Crouching AA Anti-Air AoA All-Out Attack (5A+B) OMC One More Cancel (A+B+C) OMB One More Burst (A+C+D) SB Skill Boost (A+B or C+D) Attack~N Followup with N after Attack Attack(w) Whiff Attack Attack(N) Cancel on the Nth Hit of Attack (Attack) Attack is Optional or Spacing-Specific [N] Hold N Sequence xN Repeat Sequence N amount of times. Recently Added: MidscreenAA 2B > 5C > 236A (sideswaps) > 2A > 5C > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C) [3948/4846-5716] low hit onlyAA 2B > 236A (sideswaps) > 2A > 5C > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C) [3678/4678-5548] does not work from max height CornerAA 2B > 236A > j.66A > j.B > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C) [3454/4454-5324] does not work from max height Combo Theory: Challenge Mode Combos:Mission #1:B+DMission #2:236CMission #3:236AMission #4:214A~AMission #5:214CMission #6:214AB~CMission #7:236236AMission #8:236236C~[A]Mission #9:214214C>CMission #10:222CDMission #11:5AAAAAMission #12:2A>5AA>5B>2ABMission #13:5B>2AB>236AMission #14:j.B>5A>5B>5C>236CMission #15:AA 2B>jc>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.2BMission #16:5AA>5B>5C>236C>236236C~Mission #17:CR 2B>5B>slight delay 5BB>2B>2AB>214B~BMission #18:5AA>5B>5C>2AB>236C>5B>5C>2CMission #19:2B>5BB>2B>5C>2C>236A>236236C~[C]Mission #20:214C detonate>2AB>236B>j.66B>j.C>j.236B(1)>236236AMission #21:Throw>5C>5B>delay 5BB>2B>jc>j.B>j.C>j.236A(1)>236236AMission #22:AOA>AOA rush>C launch>slight delay j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>j.236AB>236236C~[D]Mission #23:AA 2B>5C>2C>2B>236A>5A>5C>jc>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>j.236ABMission #24:AOA>AOA rush (all 18 hits)>D launch>dash cancel>2AB>214A~C>j.2B>j.B>5B>delay 5BB>2AB>236B>j.66B>j.C>236236AMission #25:Possible solutions: Game solution: 2B > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236B > OMB > 2AB > 214A~C > j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB > 236236C Easier solution: change to rainy weather>214214D>214214D>214214D>214214DMidscreen:Normal Starters5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236C - [1672] (used for situations where j.C loops are impossible and creating space. Fast, fullscreen supers like SB Atom Smasher can punish setup attempts after 236C. does not work on )5AA > 5C > 2AB > 236C - [1488] (variation for )5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A - [1753] (used for situations where j.C loops are impossible and for the safejump options after 236A. does not work on )5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A - [1584] (variation for )5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [2710-3445] (Super route when j.C loop is impossible. does not work on )5AA > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [2604-3372] (variation for )5AA > 5C > 2AB > 236A(2) > OMC > 66 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C - [3604] (universal OMC combo into knockdown, can crossup at 5BB>sweep midscreen depending on how far you dashed forward after the OMC)5AA > 5C > 2AB > 236A(2) > OMC > 66 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [4502-5122]5AA > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB - [2495] (Only works on )5AA > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [4121] (Only works on )5AA > 2B > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5C > 2AB > (236A) - [2318/2555] (Sweep allows for safe present pull, while 236A does more damage and leads to safejump. 236A ender on 5C version results in airtech, removing the safejump option. Works on everyone except . Liz, John Cena, and Yosuke require a delay after 5BB)j.C > 5AA > 5C > 2AB > 236A > OMB > (66) > 5C > 5B > delay > 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C (w) > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A >236236C~[X]) - [4688/5576-6446]AA 2B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5C > 2C - [3242] most stable, will never let you down. Use when not confident in sideswap 236A routeAA 2B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 5AAAA > 236236C~[X] - [4096-4956] super ender for above routeAA 2B > 5C > 236A (sideswaps) > 2A > 5C > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C) [3948/4846-5716] low hit only, most damageAA 2B > 236A (sideswaps) > 2A > 5C > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C) [3678/4678-5548] does not work from max height, next best damageAA 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [4049-4919]CR 5AA > 5C > 5B > delay 5BB > 2B > 5B > 2AB > (236A) - [2257]CR 5AA > 5C > 5B > delay 5BB > 2B > 5B > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [3043-3913]CR j.2B > j.B > 66 > (5AA > 5C) > 5B > delay 5BB > 2B > 5B > 2AB > (236A) - [2659]CR j.2B > j.B > 66 > (5AA > 5C) > 5B > delay 5BB > 2B > 5B > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [3457-4327]CH 5C > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2A > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C - [3319]CH 5C > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2A > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [4457-5327]CH 5C > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 5AA > delay 5C > 236A > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C~[X])- [3666/4699-5569]CH 5C > j.2B > j.C > 5AA > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB > (236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3696/4659-5529] (Only works on )CH 5C > j.2B > j.C > 5AA > 2B > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5C > 2AB > (236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3536/4509-5379] Works on everyone except . Liz, John Cena, and Yosuke require a delay after 5BB)Special Starters236A > OMC > 5C > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B >5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3802/4835-5705]236D > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B >5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3551/4689-5559]System StartersAOA > AOA C Launcher > j.A > j.B > j.C > djc > j.B > j.236AB > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3405/4314-5184]Throw > OMC > 5C > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 5AAAA > (236236C~[X]) - [2490/3270-4140]Corner:Normal Starters5AA > 5C > 5B > 2B > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2B > 5B > 2AB - [3099] (does not work on )5AA > 5C > 5B > 2B > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [4236-5106] (does not work on )5AA > 5C > 2B > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 2AB - [3099] (variant for )5AA > 5C > 2B > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] (variant for )5AA > 5C > 5B > 2B > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 2AB - [3099] (variant for )5AA > 5C > 5B > 2B > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 2A > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 2AB > 236A > 236236C~[X] (variant for )5AA > 5C > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236C > (66) 5B > 5C > 2C - [2716]5AA > 5C > 2B > 5B > 2AB > 236C > (66) 5B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [3470-4342]5AA > 5C > 2AB > 214C(detonate) > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3748/4700-5570] (for when you get a hit with an eye already out)5AA > 2AB > 236A > 214214C > 5A >2B > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B (1) > C > 236B (2) > j.66B > j.2B > 214A~A - [2889]AA 2B > 236A > j.66A > j.B > 5B >delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (5B > 236A > 236236C) [3454/4454-5324] does not work from max heightSpecial Starters System StartersThrow > (66) > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2A > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C~[X])- [2532/3495-4365]Throw > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 236A > 236236C~[X] - [2613/3667-4537] (Optimal route, but slightly more difficult)Throw > 2AB > 236B > 214214C > 5AAA > C > 5AAAA > 214A~A - [2490]AOA > AOA D Launcher > dash cancel > 5C > 5B > delay 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > (236A > 236236C~[X]) - [3708/4606-5476] (requires all 18 hits for fatal D launcher)Air Throw > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 2B > 5C > 2C - [2362]Air Throw > 2AB > 236B > j.66B > j.2B > j.C(w) > 5AAAA > 236236C~[X] - [3123-3993] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 5A>5AA>5C>5B>5BB>j.C looks like it'll be her main combo route once you hit the ground off the j.C you can go into another short combo, like 5A>5AA>5C>2C>236C>236236C or just a 236A and pop an item or eye doesn't work in the corner I lied, it's just harder forward jump cancel into j.C https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAFlL0dDbKk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u5YXNKyOQ4&feature=youtu.be EDIT: looks like it doesn't work on the Shos, Teddie, Labrys, or SLab, the jC doesn't hit omit the 5C on Naoto, Yukari, Ken, Aigis, Yukiko, Adachi, Junpei, or Rise except in the corner because the 5BB will whiff Can't do anything besides 236A after the j.C on Liz or Yosuke, need to omit 5C maybe this isn't as ideal as it initially seemed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayane Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Doesn't work on Yukari :O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 looks like it does if you omit the first 5C on the upside, the full post j.C combo is a lot easier on her in the corner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 236D>2B>5C>2C>2B>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>236AB [3183] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow_nobody Report post Posted September 11, 2014 236D>2B>5C>2C>2B>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>236AB [3183] 236D>2B>5C>2C>2B>236A>5A>5C>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>236AB [3603] A little harder to do but not impossible once you learn the spacing of it. Midscreen only, corner it's probably better to do yours or maybe if there's something else. You can combo off 236CD the same way too as long as you dash 5B>5C to confirm it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celerity Report post Posted September 11, 2014 236D>2B>5C>2C>2B>236A>5A>5C>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>236AB [3603] A little harder to do but not impossible once you learn the spacing of it. Marie has a million ways to convert random air hits, and I don't know what the exact best route is yet. I don't like this challenge mode route because it's very spacing specific, and even in this example, you're not likely to get close enough to convert a 236D hit with 2B. Looping 2B and 5BB seems to work about as well: 236D > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5BB > 2B > 5B > j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB - 3497 (That's without the second hit of 236AB, but it should be possible to land it, and it's advantage either way) AA 2B > 5C > 2C > 5BB > 2B > 5B > j.B >j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB - 2962 5A>5AA>5C>5B>5BB>j.C looks like it'll be her main combo route once you hit the ground off the j.C you can go into another short combo, like 5A>5AA>5C>2C>236C>236236C or just a 236A and pop an item or eye ... Doesn't work on crouchers either, but the route itself is good. It gives a lot of corner carry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadow_nobody Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Marie has a million ways to convert random air hits, and I don't know what the exact best route is yet. I don't like this challenge mode route because it's very spacing specific, and even in this example, you're not likely to get close enough to convert a 236D hit with 2B. Looping 2B and 5BB seems to work about as well: 236D > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5BB > 2B > 5B > j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB - 3497 (That's without the second hit of 236AB, but it should be possible to land it, and it's advantage either way) Yeah I was messing with a 5C route too because of that. 5B works just as well but your 5C>2C route is probably the safest confirm. It also works on other hits like 214C/D which is great. I was also thinking combos to do if say you had a cloud out and did AoA and they get hit by the cloud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 2B>5C>2C>2B>5B>5BB>2AB>214A~C>2C>5C>236A>236236C [4624 max] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phones01 Report post Posted September 11, 2014 2B>5C>2C>2B>5B>5BB>2AB>214A~C>2C>5C>236A>236236C [4624 max] Which weather were you in? I got 5144 in sunny weather Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phones01 Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Hmm found out you can combo after 236c in corner with 5a. So far I've done 5b, 5c, 236c, 5a, 2b, 5c, 2c, 236a, 236236c. 3673 damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phones01 Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Hmm found out you can combo after 236c in corner with 5a. So far I've done 5b, 5c, 236c, 5a, 2b, 5c, 2c, 236a, 236236c. 3673 damage. The same combo with 5a starter can does 3589 max Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Which weather were you in? I got 5144 in sunny weather I just got it from the archive here http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061837 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phones01 Report post Posted September 11, 2014 I just got it from the archive herehttp://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061837 ah ok imma check how much this combo does in each westher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phones01 Report post Posted September 11, 2014 4321 cloudy 4866 rainy 4425 snow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tae Seong Kim Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Not really a combo, but she can always seem to combo into 236C > 5A > 5C > j.B > j.2B > j.D for Oki in the corner. This is great since she has movement after j.D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pen_Ninja Report post Posted September 11, 2014 2 solutions to challenge 25 My super cool, super easy version and the game's totally unnecessary hard one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp_nIDqHa9E&feature=youtu.be 236B > 236236B > OMB > 236236B > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A(1) > 236236C 2B > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236A > 236236B > OMB > 2AB > 214A~C > j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB > 236236CD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 11, 2014 there's also the AoA method here http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061833 If somebody could transcribe that combo for me that'd be great since it's 6:30AM and I need sleep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGodhand Report post Posted September 11, 2014 there's also the AoA method here http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061833 If somebody could transcribe that combo for me that'd be great since it's 6:30AM and I need sleep Midscreen AoA C > late j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB > 5A > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C I find it's easier when you get the most hits out of the AoA. Or at least close to it. Made this one yesterday for if they end up in the corner Midscreen to corner AoA C > late j.B > j.C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.236AB > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C AoA D > dash cancel > 5C > 214A/B~C > j.2B > j.B > 5B > 5BB > 2AB > 214A/B~C > 2C > 5C > 236A > 236236C Does not work on Teddie, Yukiko, Mitsuru, and Rise. AoA D > dash cancel > 5C > 214A/B~C > j.2B > j.B> 5B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C Works on everyone but does ~200 damage less than the previous combo. 2B>5C>2C>2B>5B>5BB>2AB>214A~C>2C>5C>236A>236236C [4624 max] This one works on about half the cast midscreen with proper delaying on a couple normals. The other half is either too heavy (214A/B~C doesn't hit) or too light (2AB or 214A/B~C doesn't hit). Midscreen: AA 2B > 5C > slight delay 2C > 2B > 5B > slight delay 5BB > 2AB > 214A/B~C > 2C > 5C > 236A > 236236C Does not work on Sho, Minazuki, Teddie, Yukiko, Kanji, Ken, Labrys, SLab, Mitsuru, Aigis, and Elizabeth Midscreen: AA 2B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 236A (2nd hit crosses up) > 5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C Works on everyone but does ~300 damage less than the previous combo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlankLA Report post Posted September 11, 2014 Because I don't see many midscreen ground combos: 5AA 2B 5BB jc j.5C 5AAAA 236236C. The timing is hard to get used to, and I find it easiest to jump cancel the 5BB with 7. It feels more consistent than 8 and 9. EDIT: Actually it seems different jump cancels are better from different characters. 9 seems better for smaller characters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celerity Report post Posted September 11, 2014 There is a lotttt of character specificity in her midscreen routes. Not only 5BB > j.C, but also the amount of stuff that you can fit before 5BB and before sweep depends on the size of the opponent. Example: 5AA > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 2AB - [2495] Against a lot of characters, you need to use 2B instead of the first 5C. Some characters require omission of 5B before sweep, some don't. Similar situation here: CR j.2B > j.B(w) > dash > 5AA > 5C > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 5B > 236C - [2534] I'm still testing exactly what works on who, and I'll include that in the OP once I have the first full wave of BnBs to post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bace Report post Posted September 11, 2014 midscreen 5AA > 5C > 5BB > jc > j.C > 5AA > 5B > 2B > 2AB > 236A [2627] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dChi6khN6c anti air 2B > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5BB > 2AB > 236B > j.B > j,2B > 5A > 5C > 2C [3171] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWMNGzaQqT0 corner 5C > 2B > 2AB > 236236AB > 2AB > 236B > j.B > j.2B > 5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C [6015] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4OwhgSWK_4 5C CH > AoA~D > dash cancel > 2AB > 214A/B~C > j.2B > j.B > 5BB > 2B > 5C > 2C [3848] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQmKXfbMInA 5C > 2B > 5B > 5C > 2AB > 236236B > OMB > 236B > j.B > j.2B > 5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 236236C > 236A > 236236C [6907] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSR3hlo8C-8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaGodhand Report post Posted September 12, 2014 Nice! I'm trying these out later Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ayane Report post Posted September 12, 2014 Any universal BnBs yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buttface Report post Posted September 12, 2014 5A>5AA>5B>2B>2AB>214A~A/B for present setups 5A>5AA>5B>5C>2C>236C for eye setups 5A>5AA>5B>2B>2AB>236A for blockstrings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites