Orion

if you want a new thread have the mod lock the old one so no confusion ensues. good shit at pixels btw

maybe im wrong, either way, seems like you play patient then make her bleed when you can

there are some areas during her corner drive pressure that you can 623a~a, i've found that j.2c works decently since she seems to be able to punish IAD j.c, or just j.c attempts with her 6a i believe. patience is key like in so many of hakumens matches, 6c usually got me in trouble unless it was timed really well. there are a lot of false gaps in her drive pressure that, unless i IB'd, there was no way to do a D counter. 5c stuffed a lot of her close range normal attacks if timed right, but when she came at me in the air with j.c i think, she was beating my 6a out. or maybe i was timing it too early or late. just what i found from doin a first to 20 with a friend. 20-17 noel won

I guess why sb at all with baiken? thanks guys

having trouble with testament, it seems like he can turtle a lot more efficiently than I can with trees and nets and all that junk, plus his normals outrange me and he can grab me a lot...A LOT. the nets and trees make doing any counters hard and badlands is gay. is it still worth it to sb his 2d or just block and wait?

jackhound doesn't have invincibility frames when he disappears, does it?

well, I don't just spam it. lmao there's more to it:grin:

wow, IAD back mat works like a dream with johnny. eventually he has to get close enough to get hit by it!

any tricks for getting it super low?

well, what do you always get hit by? watch for those moves and try and time it around those moves hitting you.

you can't just spam, there is timing involved

anyone have any tips vs zappa? I'm all mixed up

I'm having a big problem. I'm getting caught in the corner and owned for free. He anti airs me with mist finers, ensengas, and j.hs and countering me with coins, 6p, jackhound, and tick grabs. He knows all the counters and when I'm going to use them and I can't seem to get this johnny off my ass! HELP