[Xrd] News & Gameplay Discussion 2 - Console is Out!

[[Xrd] News & Gameplay Discussion 2 - Console is Out!]

there is no limit on how many times you get danger time, it happened back to back with a gap of about 5 seconds one round for me 

[[Xrd] King Ky - Combo/Setup Listing and Discussion]

uhhh if you ciel slide properly they can't upback out of it, they can fd jump out of it but they put themselves in a situation shittier than just ibing the sword

 

.........anyways you should just vt loop into ciel off 6hs in the corner 

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

ky actually has one of the strongest air to air game in xrd, characters with air normals that don't have very good reach downward are susceptible to being bullied by j.p, j.k has ridiculous range and speed, one thing to know about ky's air to air is that he's better at following them on reaction after they've jumped

 

6p's still pretty strong, the hitbox isn't as good as it was in ac, takes some getting used to

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

1. frame traps and throw

2. you want to use 6k and 6hs sparingly, most people won't press buttons against ky so you can dash back in after moves like 2k, c.s, 2s and 5hs, if they want to press buttons max range 6hs, se yrc, cse yrc will eat them alive, if they want to jump follow them with j.p/j.k and bring them back down for more or air throw them

3. close range 2p, 5p, 5k, 2k, 6p, c.s, 6k mid range f.s, 2s, 5hs, sweep, j.hs, 6hs

[[Xrd] King Ky - Combo/Setup Listing and Discussion]

that combo works fine, you just do 5hs>ciel on lightweights instead

 

bedman gs>c.s>2hs>gs>hsvt>5hs/2hs>ciel

pot gs>c.s>2hs>gs>2hs(1)>hsvt>5hs>ciel

[[Xrd] King Ky - Combo/Setup Listing and Discussion]

most combos are slightly altered 10 year old combos

 

whatever>ciel>dc sacred>whatever>hsvt>whatever>ciel

whatever>sweep>sacred>whatever>vt loop>whatever>ciel

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

j.d crossups still work but are harder to setup

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

its about the same as it was in reload and slash, which is shorter than ac 5hs

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

6hs is still good for people that want to dash in and resetting pressure/jacking up gb

[[Xrd] Sol Badguy Gameplay Discussion]

you wakeup, block the gunflame j.hs, and pray you fuzzy jump whatever comes next

[[Xrd] Sol Badguy Gameplay Discussion]

40-60%, highly unlikely because everything after it would be minuscule in terms of damage

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

can you dash sweep?

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

you only have about 10f off ciel stagger against real people, and you're usually within poke range so i wouldnt use that too often 

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

most old players arent or stopped playing xrd because people at game centers pick their opponents even when 1 credit is like 50 cents

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

machaboo stopped playing xrd altogether

 

not really a surprise since most top xrd players go back at least that far and machaboo is an overall stronger player, that's why he's better than ain

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

ain's been around since reload and machaboo stopped playing almost 2 months ago

 

and an extra second on grinders wouldnt really do anything useful

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami Combo Thread]

interesting, didn't know about this, but it seems you can fix the height by doing 2b(1) or 5b instead of 5b(2) for about 60 less dmg. some characters float a little too high from the 5d but you can almost always delay the 5b so that 5dd connects 

 

either way, if it's too finicky i'd say burst straight into b dive combo is the safest option

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami Combo Thread]

even easier and higher damage route is just to b shiden burst early, both routes work from about the same distance from the corner

 

5c>236a>214d>b shiden>burst>5d>5b>5dd>214b>2b>j.c>j.214a>5a>5c>2c>214b   6661

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami Combo Thread]

woops yeah i forgot to put type dash before the 2nd 2b in the loop haha

 

also if you know you're at least from p1 starting position when land ch 5c, you might as well just do the easy mode 9.6k combo, those 2 combos are strictly for midscreen that is far away from the corner you're facing, but there are probably similar damage no slide sideswap ones

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami Combo Thread]

pretty sure most practical high damage combos off ch 5c midscreen are

 

air hit ch 5c>dc>(5b)>5c>burst>dash c cs>[2b(1)>5c>214ab]x2>dash 2b(1)>5c>236a>dp>c cs

ch 5c>236a>214d>burst>dash c cs>[2b(1)>5c>214ab]x2>dash 2b(1)>5c>236a>dp>c cs

 

unless you can get the new sandwich 5dd which is pretty awkward to do

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami - Gameplay Discussion]

yeah you can buffer the input for shiden, a ver you can actually use the s hold system by holding down a and get it charged to 3 bars and you'll get 1st frame a shiden

 

b dive feint as a safe jump let's you do some pretty interesting midscreen oki

 

burst 5d is pretty strange now, but you can get 2 hits if you do immediate dash 5d but 5dd>b dive is pretty tricky sometimes

 

what's the frame advantage for 5c dc on block anyway?

[[P4AU] Yu Narukami Combo Thread]

combos from p4u2 wiki http://seesaawiki.jp/p4u_matome/d/P4U2%a1%a1%cc%c4%be%e5%cd%aa%a1%a1%a5%b3%a5%f3%a5%dc%a5%ec%a5%b7%a5%d4#content_3_4_1

 

Midscreen/Back facing corner

 

Meterless:

5AAA(jc)>JC>J214B　dm1542

5A>5B>5C>214C　dm1248

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D　dm1875

5B(crouch hit)>5C>2C>236C　dm1831

AOA>C Followup(FC)>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>J214B　dm2905

2B(air hit)>5C>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>J214B　dm2185

Throw(ch)>dash 5B>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>J214A　dm2219

Air Throw>J2B(delay)>dash 5B>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>J236C　dm2773

 

25%:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214CD>BD　dm2445

214AB(FC)>dash 5B(delay)>5C(dc)>5A>5C(dc)>5A>5C>IADJB>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm4274

236D(FC)>214AB>2B(1)>5C(dc)>5A>5C(dc)>5A>5C>IADJB>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm4415

 

50%:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D>J236236C　dm2820

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>6>214B>2B>5C>JB(jc)>JB>JC>J214A　dm3289

AOA>C Followup(FC)>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>BD>J236236C　dm3692

Throw(omc)>dash 5B>5C>JBB(jc)>JB>JC>J214A　dm2355

236D(FC)>[214AB>fastest dash 2B>5C](×2)>IADJB>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm4958

 

75%:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214CD>BD>J236236C　dm3356

214AB(FC)>dash 5B(delay)>5C>214AB>fastest dash 2B(1)>5C>214AB>fastest dash 2B>5C>IADJB>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm4992 

 

100%:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D>214214C(delay)>236236A　dm4299

 

150%:

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>6>214B>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm5041

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>6>214B>214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C　dm5802

AOA>D Followup(FC)>214CD(1)>214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214CD　dm5223

 

150%+Burst:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm6731

5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm6946

5C>236A>214D>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm8057

Throw>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm5587

Air Throw>J2B(delay)>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm5994

2B(air hit)>5C>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C>236236A　dm7298

 

 

Corner

 

Meterless:

5AAA(jc)>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm2627

5A>5B>5C>214C>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm2411

5B(crouch hit)>5C>2C>214B(delay)>2B>5B>5C>hjJB>JC>J236C　dm2961

JD>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm2979

AOA>D Followup(FC)>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm3400

Throw>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm2773

Air Throw>J2B(delay)>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm2937

236B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm2828

236B>fastest 5C>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm2835

 

25%:

JD>5B>5C>214AB>fastest 2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm3914

Throw>5B>5C>214AB>fastest 2B>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm3147

Air Throw>J2B(delay)>5C>214AB>fastest 2B>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm3545

 

50%:

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm3525

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D(omc)>fastest 214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm3861

AOA>D Followup(FC)>[214AB>fastest 2B>5C](×2)>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm3832

2B(air hit)>5C>hjJB>JC>J214A(omc)>JD>2B>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm3535

 

50%+Burst:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5B>5C>hjJB>JC>BD>J236236C　dm4967

5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5B>5C>hjJB>JC>BD>J236236C　dm5169

5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5B>5C>hjJB>JC>BD>J236236C　dm5942

5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>[2B>5C>214AB](×2)>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm6112

 

75%:

5B>5C>214D(omc)>5C>214AB>fastest 2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)　dm4312

Air Throw(omc)>2B>5C>214AB>2B>5C>2C>214B(delay) dm3635

 

75%+Burst:

5C>236A>214D>omb>214AB>2A>5C>214AB>2B>5C>214AB>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>236A　dm6760

 

100%:

Throw>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm4581

236B>fastest 5C>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm4743

 

100%+Burst:

5A>5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm5964

5B>5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm6234

5C>236A>214D>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm6967

 

150%:

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm5296

5A>5B>5C>214D(omc)>fastest 214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm5571

AOA>D Followup(FC)>[214AB>fastest 2B>5C](×2)>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm5740

Throw(omc)>214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C　dm4661

2B(air hit)>5C>hjJB>JC>J214A(omc)>JD>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C>236236A　dm5309

 

150%+Burst:

5B>5C>214D>214214C(delay)>236236A>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C　dm7965

5C>236A>214D>214214C(delay)>236236A>omb>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C　dm9127

5C>236A>214D>214214C(delay)>236236A>omb>5D>5B>追加D>214B>2B>JC>J214A>5A>5C>2C>214B(delay)>214214C　dm9520

Throw(ch)>214214C(crossup)>2B>5C>omb>dash 214214C(crossup)>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C　dm6432

AOA>D Followup(FC)>214214C>236236A>omb>214B>2B(1)>5C>236A>BD(1)>214214C　dm6222

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

uhh.....i dont save links.....go dig up mikado videos from the last month or 2? idk

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

it was a thing back in reload and slash but you never get the 2nd hit to connect, ain did it a couple times in xrd and both hits connect 

[[Xrd] King Ky - Gameplay Discussion]

you're not going to get a knockdown on lightweights with gs>hsvt route midscreen period, hsvt>slide route works on midweights(maybe heavy also) in the corner because slide 1st hit seems to make them float lower, might work midscreen who knows