Zaido

It was good seeing you again copperdabbit. Btw I also played against you for 1 set!

Most of Tsubaki's Follow up Normals have better prorate then her initial normals.

A Better Outfit.

Might as well release a Tsubaki Beginner Mode Combo video with Guile's Theme song as BGM!

OH well, excuse me... I am sorry I did not double check and proof read what I just typed when I posted, cause I thought i would just give a personal opinion on why basing a characters match up chart to actually playing the character would mean much. BBCS being patched 6 month after is news to me, since i didn't know so... now I know! MAC: well i am only saying that the top 3 in CT made the game feel pretty hard as hakumen... And i am not trying to convince you not to play the character, I feel you should play who you want, and whatever you think its your opinion, but i was only giving my opinion on saying top 3 in CT made the game pretty one sided most of the time.

I don't see the point of comparing a certain character in a previous game is to a character to this version of the game gona prove anything if their style of play and what not are different through match up charts. Plus the CT top 3 back then were pretty much lolz compare to CS top 3, imo. And anything saying about Tsubaki now is only refers to the arcade Tsubaki, since console version might have tweaks or what not which would make a world of difference in argument/comparison.

Time to add in that Guile Theme

obviously we were all talking about Hakumen, and this thread is talking about a Hakumen Move called Tsubaki. which is actually a good Tsubaki!

Because she is better then Rachel... OH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In all seriousness... it was probably time invested in the character already, since i don't really go to the arcade all that much, all the time i went was already invested on this character so i just stuck to my guns.

alright, time to combo it at the end of the combo with the ball hitting for the win!

that ball is useless by itself, because if you do not follow up after it, you basically recover on the ground right as that thing touches the opponent if they were standing to guard it. even if it hit it has no hit stun. So if you have 1 level and used it on that thing in the air, its safe to say if the opponent KNOWS tsubaki, he will just run under that and punish her for free cause ur basically vulnerable on the way down Only reason you would use it is for combo purposes or actually burning 2 level meters to do that and the dive in order to power up the dive move to get in.

I doubt it, since they can hit you before you recover from the move. Unless they did a Slow poke to try to punish you. You probably could do this bait if you hit with the move.. but usually you probably follow it up if it hit... or if you didn't follow it up the other guy probably be blocking cause he assumes you gona do a follow up or they have no idea what tsubaki is doing anyways... I wont stop you guys from playing this character cause i dont care what you feel about tiers or what not other feelings about having handicap or stuff. if you want to have fun or learn another character go ahead knock your socks off Ginseng just wanted to let you guys know what your impressions of her MIGHT be is to when you play her what you actually FEEL about the character.

this thread is actually active... basically lets say you did her 236A/B/C on block they can punish you; On hit if you do not cancel into her follow ups they can punish; On standing counter hit if you don't follow up you probably can't follow up with her fastest normal either not like Ragna's Hells Fang... Most of her so called "Get in their face" specials like 236 or j214 are all minus on block and are to the point where they can punish you, thus you have to get in without relying on those moves unless ur 100 percent sure its gona hit or have Heat to rapid cancel. I feel Tsubaki's high low game is weak But she has a pretty good throw game